Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

For me this says it all....

“Nothing can save England if she will not save herself,” Winston Churchill told his countrymen on St George’s Day 1933. “If we lose faith in ourselves, in our capacity to guide and govern, if we lose our will to live, then indeed our story is told.”

Now that Britain has reclaimed her sovereign independence, our generation has stated boldly that we still have faith in ourselves as a nation, that we believe in our capacity to guide and govern ourselves, and that our story is not yet told.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

You quite literally began this, you delusion clown.

You’re going on ignore, you must be so proud of yourself giving the Tories Carte-Blanche to destroy employees rights and cripple immigration with your little brexit vote.

As for us remainers - our time will come, the stats on voting ages show that it was the older generations who wanted to leave, not the younger.

Chill out mate. Everton won. We can save the blue on blue for another day.

 

[Old Blue 2]

You're arguing against a point I didn't make. I said you don't come across like you're laughing at Chester Blue. I made no reference to who started it.

If you can't see that, then there's nothing else I can say.

Just setting out my position, Bishop.

 

[Old Blue 2]

Chill out mate. Everton won. We can save the blue on blue for another day.

Now that was a shock today, Bruce. 2-0, I thought that was it. Off to other music forums and back at half-time. What! 2-2. Second half Sky Sports saying we were the better team, then Delph... But, at last WE do the last minute thing. Crazy. If we had not made an utter gaff of the Newcastle home game, we would be well in the hunt for top 6 (which is somewhat crazy!).

 

[Charlie Sweet]

For me this says it all....

“Nothing can save England if she will not save herself,” Winston Churchill told his countrymen on St George’s Day 1933. “If we lose faith in ourselves, in our capacity to guide and govern, if we lose our will to live, then indeed our story is told.”

Now that Britain has reclaimed her sovereign independence, our generation has stated boldly that we still have faith in ourselves as a nation, that we believe in our capacity to guide and govern ourselves, and that our story is not yet told.....

Pete you're quoting a bloke from almost 90 years ago to make your point. Dont you think the UK (and the world) has moved on a bit?!

 

[Jebus_lives]

Pete you're quoting a bloke from almost 90 years ago to make your point. Dont you think the UK (and the world) has moved on a bit?!

Unfortunately, much like Pete, many English haven't.

 

[Jebus_lives]

 

[Charlie Sweet]

Its just unbelievable @jeff anderson @Jeff gillen @Jeff Jones @Jeffbeb @jeffers22 @jefferydaly55

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Not just trade either, as people will demonstrably have fewer freedoms afterwards than before. I hope Johnson enjoys his power, and for all our sakes, manages to cobble something together that gives us something to look forward to.

 

[Connor]

'Happy Brexit Day' signs say 'only speak English'

The signs, which say "we do not tolerate" non-English speakers, have been reported to police.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Jebus_lives]

Not just trade either, as people will demonstrably have fewer freedoms afterwards than before. I hope Johnson enjoys his power, and for all our sakes, manages to cobble something together that gives us something to look forward to.

The UK really needs to play on the rhetoric of togetherness and stop the threats to the EU. The frankly embarrassing behaviour from Farage needs to be parked and a more conciliatory tone levied. Each ridiculous threat to the EU does nothing now but harm the UK and ultimately livelihoods.

As I mentioned this morning, I hope we start to see the UK recognise that they aren't in a position to threaten, particularly given the clamour to sign a treaty with limited parliamentary scrutiny. Despite being heralded as 'Boris getting it done' the Withdrawal Agreement wasn't a success for the UK, it was a product of a desperate man, boxed in, who threw in the towel then claimed a victory when the other side stopped punching.

As a side note about the EU, they seem rather over confident in their negotiating position, probably due to actually having decided on trading policy and having the experience of these deals, but that will not play well to a UK audience that thinks it's the superior partner.

 

[peteblue]

Pete you're quoting a bloke from almost 90 years ago to make your point. Dont you think the UK (and the world) has moved on a bit?!

The words he used would have the same resonance if they were originated by Boris, May, Cameron, Brown, Blair.....it’s not when they were said, it’s the meaning and purpose behind them.......

 

[peteblue]

And he was right, except that he did not include the U.K. within the USE......

 

[peteblue]

I actually like this hotel from Churchill......

”you can always count on the British to do the right thing, after they’ve tried everything else”......

 

[Charlie Sweet]

The words he used would have the same resonance if they were originated by Boris, May, Cameron, Brown, Blair.....it’s not when they were said, it’s the meaning and purpose behind them.......

No Pete no. Digging out a quote from 90 years ago to add weight to an argument of abandoning the EU is pathetic. We now live in an integrated multi-cultural world. This idea of the UK cutting it's own route around the seven seas with Boris at the helm of the royal yacht Britannia is just laughable.