Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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peteblue said:
Well I am a Tory, and I want and use the NHS. I am not naive and am not on a wind up. I also use private health and I pay a lot of money for it when the NHS cannot do what we need or when. I would be very happy not to have to pay this money, but I will not see my wife suffer because the NHS fails every now and again.... would you ?
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Pete I’ve worked in the NHS for a long time across a few governments.

Trust me when I say this government isn’t fit to run it.
 
dannyboy said:
Could level the same accusations at the current Prime Minister. I didn´t proclaim that Corbyn had changed anything in the first place so no idea why you´re asking me.
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The man has done nothing, achieved nothing, changed nothing in his entire political life. He is a poor politiciamore suited to ‘protest’ then actually doing anything, hence why he achieved no position of authority in any Labour government. He is a whiner, a moaner, someone who is against everything and for nothing......he is a waste of space.....
 
Aqui1a said:
I basically did answer you. If you have a nation-wide referendum on an issue, then you should respect it, regardless of the FTPA. I don't care if it's non-binding. To ignore it is undemocratic.

Yes, 46.8m did vote in 2017. Firstly, it was respected, as I've told you RePeAtEdLy, and secondly, on manifestos saying they'd carry out Brexit. Remainer parties lied, where's the outrage? lol
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You basically didn't...

The referendum was non binding and advisory. It did not have legal effect until Labour and Conservatives pledged to deliver it in their manifestos.

We have subsequently had a GE in which the public voted for the current PaRliaMent, which Labour lost in. Why would they continue with the same policy if they thought the reason they lost the GE was related to their stance on BrExIt?

I also think it's stretching the definition, if you think that a debate that has dominated the political & to a degree legal landscape for the last 3 years has been ignored.
 
peteblue said:
The man has done nothing, achieved nothing, changed nothing in his entire political life. He is a poor politiciamore suited to ‘protest’ then actually doing anything, hence why he achieved no position of authority in any Labour government. He is a whiner, a moaner, someone who is against everything and for nothing......he is a waste of space.....
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I bet he never gets invited to exclusive parties that only those who are invited attend.
 
peteblue said:
The man has done nothing, achieved nothing, changed nothing in his entire political life. He is a poor politiciamore suited to ‘protest’ then actually doing anything, hence why he achieved no position of authority in any Labour government. He is a whiner, a moaner, someone who is against everything and for nothing......he is a waste of space.....
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Corbyn or Johnson?
 
Groucho said:
Pete I’ve worked in the NHS for a long time across a few governments.

Trust me when I say this government isn’t fit to run it.
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Groucho, no government of whatever colour ever has been. They think putting in money clears their conscience and proves that it is ‘safe in their hands’, but it’s crap. The NHS does wonderful stuff, and even though I’ve private insurance I have been using it more and more instead of just going to a private hospital even though I could. But every time I go, I see waste and appointments that seem to be more about covering backs than sorting out problems. When there is an emergency and urgent need, no one can do it better, without a shadow of a doubt. But some of the run of the mill stuff can be woeful and inefficient......
 
peteblue said:
Groucho, no government of whatever colour ever has been. They think putting in money clears their conscience and proves that it is ‘safe in their hands’, but it’s crap. The NHS does wonderful stuff, and even though I’ve private insurance I have been using it more and more instead of just going to a private hospital even though I could. But every time I go, I see waste and appointments that seem to be more about covering backs than sorting out problems. When there is an emergency and urgent need, no one can do it better, without a shadow of a doubt. But some of the run of the mill stuff can be woeful and inefficient......
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They should give it to me to run, I’ll sort it out in a week.
 
JEBUS_LIVES said:
I bet he never gets invited to exclusive parties that only those who are invited attend.
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Nor me....and if you can find any reference then post it. In fact it may well have been you that invented this little lie. I get invited to gatherings, conferences, meetings, I don’t attend parties.....but go ahead check the thread, then you can apologise for continuing this silly assertion.....
 
Groucho said:
They should give it to me to run, I’ll sort it out in a week.
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Personally I would have loved to have gotten involved in helping to sort it out, alas I don’t think I am politically correct enough and perhaps a bit too harsh with solutions to be acceptable........
 
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