dead_soft
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Be easy to copy and past then? Trying to engage with your reasons why but it's hard if you don't say what they are
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Be easy to copy and past then? Trying to engage with your reasons why but it's hard if you don't say what they are
Cameron's leaflet costiing 8-9 million it will be implemented a vote in a lifetime.............
Her deal was crap.........
And it has been. A50 was triggered.
Your lot just didn't have the slightest clue as to how it could work though - that has been the problem; a bunch of chancers who didn't know what they were doing, as you and Pete display day in, day out on here.
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Yeah, to be honest, it's not far from the truth. To my mind, the only 'deal' that could ever have worked out was the nuked-early 'soft Brexit' option that saw continued membership of both the SM and the CU, but removed the UK from the EU's political institutions and divorced us from the maxim of 'ever closer union'. It would have been fine with the EU, it would have garnered Labour votes to get through Parliament, it would have safeguarded the NI border, jobs & the economy, it would likely have received 'losers' consent' etc etc... it would have been a reasonably successful (though largely symbolic and pointless) Brexit.
But it wasn't enough for the actual powers behind the Leave vote. The money men who have already made hundreds of millions from the Leave vote, they eye the real prize of being free to get those all important trade deals. Trade deals they are well placed to skim further fortunes from the top of. These trade deals mean nothing to the 'man on the street' (or 'in the pub'), who won't remotely profit from them, and yet for some reason it's become some sort of personal crusade for them that we be able to strike them, regardless of the personal fallout.
So of course, the Brexiter financiers ratchetted up the rhetoric. "Tied to the EU forever". "Surrender Act". All these turns of phrase designed to tap into the Leave psyche and drive them into first accepting, and then demanding No Deal, as if it's the only way to satisfy the nation's honour. And all the while those same financiers add further 0s onto the windfall coming their way from the suffering of the regular folk.
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Triggered but not fired don't worry those remainders will pay the price at the ballot box in a GE.......
Regardless of how much it cost, a PM can't actually promise votes on behalf of MPs in the HoC to anyone, even the great unwashed masses. If they could then no govt would need a majority, they could just send a pamphlet round before the vote with a promise to the people - "We will invade Iraq" etc. Party whips notwithstanding, all MPs are free to vote as they will on all Commons business.
Emlynsqueakyvoice
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So, tell me what was so crap about May's deal that Johnson improved upon? Give us some detail @Joey66, as I'm not entirely convinced that you actually know what you are talking about. Like @Methuselah, just half a dozen things would suffice early doors.
For information, @Methuselah said that there were a raft of things wrong with May's deal. I asked him for detail, I've waited for an answer, but I don't have one yet.....
I'll wait.......
Why can't you just admit you haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about?
I don't even think you know what the EU is. You just read those letters in the Mail one day and you hate it now.
You going to shoot them?
Charlie Sweet
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Pete the whole press has been antil EU for 40 years. Name one that hasnt been?
When you vote tory no doubt
not voting for any of those kids in the HOC.....
Best post you have made I agree with......
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