Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Ashtonian]

We should leave, but I reckon the result will be to stay.

The scaremongering by Cameron and Osbourne has been a disgrace, of course we'll be able to still trade with Europe if we leave contrary to what they've been peddling, they want to sell us goods too FFS, would the German's and French be happy not selling cars to the UK anymore?

We need control over our borders or this country is F%$Ked.

They did the exact same thing with Scotland.

Sad thing is its worked again. I'd be more satisfied if remain won based on facts and not scare tactics.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The Conservatives on the leave side will demand a scapegoat and I get the feeling Osbourne will be the sacrifice offered.

 

[jal123]

There's a considerable fraction of the Conservative party that would be extremely unhappy with a Remain victory, it's not impossible that they would vote against Cameron. With the Conservative majority being so small, it only takes a smallish number to vote with Labour and the SNP to force an election.

Every single one of them has signed a letter saying Cameron has a mandate to stay as leader

 

[TheBlueGibbon]

They did the exact same thing with Scotland.

Sad thing is its worked again. I'd be more satisfied if remain won based on facts and not scare tactics.

Both sides were equally as bad for scare tactics. The whole campaign on both (official) sides was a disgrace.

 

[ToffeeTim]

All depends what way the EU goes now. Any further transfer of sovereignty and I'd be a definite vote leave next time.

 

[The Cowboy]

There's a considerable fraction of the Conservative party that would be extremely unhappy with a Remain victory, it's not impossible that they would vote against Cameron. With the Conservative majority being so small, it only takes a smallish number to vote with Labour and the SNP to force an election.

They might be unhappy, but Cameron gave them what they wanted, and they didn't succeed. If they're still unhappy with Cameron, then they need to suck it up.

 

[wikofootball]

Ladbrokes. Going 1-10 remain 86%

 

[jal123]

All depends what way the EU goes now. Any further transfer of sovereignty and I'd be a definite vote leave next time.

You won't be alive 'next time'

This has been an unmitigated disaster, nobody will promise a referendum on this again.

 

[deipnosophist]

I've been short on the $ all week, am just about to close out

Nice work...I lobbed a fair bit of gold out on the Brexit fear spike above USD1300/oz last week ...I'll hold the short for a while.

 

[The Cowboy]

They did the exact same thing with Scotland.

Sad thing is its worked again. I'd be more satisfied if remain won based on facts and not scare tactics.

Looking back on the Scottish ref, there was quite simply too many phenomenally large unknowns that it is no surprise the Scots shat it and voted to remain. They couldn't even say for certain whether the oil was there's or not!

 

[jal123]

Looking back on the Scottish ref, there was quite simply too many phenomenally large unknowns that it is no surprise the Scots shat it and voted to remain. They couldn't even say for certain whether the oil was there's or not!

Turns out there wasn't any!

 

[The Cowboy]

Nice work...I lobbed a fair bit of gold out on the Brexit fear spike above USD1300/oz last week ...I'll hold the short for a while.

I'm not allowed to get involved in all this jazz. Conflict of interest, insider trading etc.

 

[ToffeeTim]

You won't be alive 'next time'

This has been an unmitigated disaster, nobody will promise a referendum on this again.

Don't really agree to be honest. The European Union as a concept is certainly very workable. The common currency is however certainly not and will collapse within a couple of decades. I'm absolutely certain that it's not feasible. The countries are nowhere near economically similar enough. Like Germany and potentially Turkey? No.

So to be honest I expect another vote in maybe 20 years time when the thing goes tits up and we are finally forced to make a Europe which is beneficial to it's members. I wish there was a reform Europe to a solely trading union option on the ballot paper.

 

[The Cowboy]

Turns out there wasn't any!

The queen smashing Alec Salmond's head with a bowling ball. 'One drinks...YOUR MILK!'

 

[BlueToff]

They did the exact same thing with Scotland.

Sad thing is its worked again. I'd be more satisfied if remain won based on facts and not scare tactics.

The reason I voted out was pure gut feeling, but all along I was sickened by the scare tactics used to target my generation (teens through to late 20s/early 30s I suppose), who have never known anything better.

And then add that to a load of snobbish students who believe that because they've paid £30,000.00 to get a 2:1 (the equivalent of a 'B'), they are able to laugh at anybody else who disagrees with their opinions - sickens me.

At the end of the day, I'm not sure too much would have changed either way. We may now never know but I'm glad I at least used this probable once in a lifetime vote to request change rather than stay in the mire.