Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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JEBUS_LIVES said:
Just read it.

I'm working through the contradictions. We have a parliamentary democracy, whether we like it or not. So those complaining about parliament, while frustrating, should accept the democratic process. If they don't like the decision of Parliament, then why aren't they asking for a general election (I now you are which definitely clarifies the position).

Specifically about Farage, he isn't challenging the decision of the UK through UK process or through UK legislation, he's specifically asking foreign politicians to frustrate the will of UK Parliament through his platform in European Parliament as an MEP. I'm surprised the Daily Mail aren't up in arms and branding him a traitor.
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I think we must agree to differ in our opinions then, which is absolutely fine is it not? I think we need to be consistent in our opinions though. That hypothetical example I gave of the MEP who was trying to stop a no deal Brexit through his platform in the European parliament. If you believe that Farage was wrong in his actions then you must also accept the same applies here. Do you agree?

Also, I think we both know that the Daily Mail is not going to call out Farage in this (until they changed editors anyway) But I'd fully expect the likes of the Guardian, Mirror and Independent to have had him hung drawn and quartered by now.
 
It surely has to be the plan now to get the 3rd MV out the way (with another likely defeat) then take one of the indicative votes off the table (probably the LP Customs Union solution) and get this done.

As Gregg Clark said last night on Peston's show, the only way to get political closure is to have a thumping majority in parliament. May's 3rd MV just wont do that...even if it did just squeak through.

That said, Labour need to avoid being lumbered with the deal - this was always the mess the Tory's created and they have to be seen to own it.
 
BigBlueNose said:
I hate the European bureaucrats and can not wait to get away from all that crap.

it might not improve my life, but I whole heartedly think it will be for the best for future generations
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Did you base this belief on the below well researched, reasoned view?

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Barnfred 55 said:
I don't have to attend to anything first.

I'm more than happy to engage in here with civility and on an equal footing. You haven't shown signs of either, just sarcasm and a misplaced sense of superiority.
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You're obviously having a bad day, we'll leave it here.
 
BigBlueNose said:
I hate the European bureaucrats and can not wait to get away from all that crap.

it might not improve my life, but I whole heartedly think it will be for the best for future generations
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Respectfully, have you seen the state of our own politicians? They've proven that they can't be trusted.
 
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