Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bluerover]

Yet another going on about extending our time in the EU so as to avoid a cliff edge. Exactly what is this cliff edge ? We can trade with the EU on WTO rules, but reimburse exporters to the EU with the import tariffs collected from EU imports. Companies are well versed in operating WTO rules because we currently use them to trade with the rest of the world today, and it is a growing market for us, unlike the EU. The resource he speaks of requiring, is for new free trade agreements, and because we already operate EU standards we can both set up new agreements as we wish while piggybacking off existing and new EU agreements. We should prepare for WTO rules and let the EU push for a deal.....

I was at a conference recently where both the EU Agriculture Commissioner and a Head of Unit in DG Trade made it clear that while the EU would like to maintain its trade to UK it is actively seeking new markets. EU recently signed a major new agreement with Japan after the US pulled out of an almost completed agreement with that country.

If the UK makes tariffs too high for EU goods it will find itself isolated.

The Russian ban on EU goods as a retaliation for sanctions due to actions in Crimea was described as a blessing in disguise as the EU has since found new markets to replace Russia.

So don't depend on too much revenue from such tariffs as it may not materialise.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...heresa-may-florence-speech-tory-a7960226.html

I hope democracy is served, the will of the people

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...heresa-may-florence-speech-tory-a7960226.html

I hope democracy is served, the will of the people

Ah opinion polls, don't the people who make them ever get tired of being wrong?!

There's a reason we never get a true picture of how people vote through polls. Most people I know would never share how they voted in any election or referendum to anyone other then friends and relatives because they don't consider it anyone else's business. You also can't discount the idea that people will say they would vote remain to avoid the sneering condescension or fear of being judged wrongly as a racist, but then vote the other way.

I'm past making my case for leaving as it's been done to death at this stage and neither of us are going to change our minds so my point is really just about the polls. They're useless and should be taken with truckloads of salt.

 

[Joey66]

I can see us crashing out on WTO rules by a new leader of the tories after a general election in the future - as no way will the EU agree to anything other than us pay the earth may as well pay tariffs !

 

[Tubey]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...heresa-may-florence-speech-tory-a7960226.html

I hope democracy is served, the will of the people

Astonished it's that close if anything.

I'd have thought more would have thought twice about their "kick the estabishment lulz" vote by now.

 

[Tubey]

The MayBot is being programmed for the most pointless speech in political history I see.

 

[Tubey]

Embarrassing if true.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

She's kind of right, but the eyes of the world are looking upon us with a sense of pity only matched by those that look upon America under Trump.

 

[Joey66]

Embarrassing if true.

They won't even accept that so it's for our government to leave under WTO rules as the EU want to punish us financially- call their bluff put tarrifs on them let them pay the price!

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I fart in your general direction, and put tariffs on your bourguignon...

 

[Tubey]

Nothing whatsoever so far. What a surprise.

 

[Tubey]

No EEA membership or a standard Free Trade agreement...

So what the UK is after is the economic version of cloud cuckoo land.

What she's basically saying is she wants single market access in all but name. Won't happen, and she should be open and honest with the public and say the reason she wants such a thing is because not having single market access or an ecomonic equivalent is an absolute disaster for the UK.

 

[neil999]

Astonished it's that close if anything.

I'd have thought more would have thought twice about their "kick the estabishment lulz" vote by now.

your underestimating how much people love to hate immigrants..

 

[Tubey]

This is basically a long-winded begging letter to the EU - "please, please let us keep the advantages of your club without being in your club - I've got to save face; I can't turn back on this stupid Brexit thing now - boohoo!"

 

[neil999]

wonder if we might end up with a referendum on single market membership....