Eric Dier VS John Stones

[Zatara]

Dier was on loan for us for a while and seems to be the player we are now seeing in John Stones?

What ever happened to Dier and could he come back and partner Stones perhaps in a long term plan ?

 

[Herk8346]

4.5mil buyout clause on him as well

 

[Aidey9]

In amongst the Sporting 1st team these days, often used as a defensive midfielder. If he was still with us, he'd be playing under Martinez, well, getting game time here and there and plenty of mins!

 

[Zatara]

4.5mil isn't bad surely, hows he playing for them?

 

[Hellerad]

4.5mil isn't bad surely, hows he playing for them?

Well. He was in the first team for an extended period, but he has not secured that spot quite yet. I think he'd make a very good possession CB in Martinez's system.

Sporting Lisbon is having financial issues (who isn't atm in that part of Europe?) so he probably could be bought if we wanted him.

On the other hand, we have Jags, Alcarez, Heitinga, and Stones on the books as right footed center halves, so even with Jonny off in January, I don't think its a priority nor have I heard the slightest rumour.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Wasn't he on loan with us as his family moved back to the UK.

 

[meagher94]

Maybe they're the same guy.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Maybe they're the same guy.

They are the same guy, I just meant that perhaps we were only ever going to have him short term.

 

[swisso]

Had ambitions of wanting to play senior games, which Moyes quite rightly couldn't offer him.

Was a good player though, wasn't scared of the ball and liked to take off with it and just run upfield. Saw him try it once and had a shot saved from outside the box.

Looks like hes beefed up a bit now and gotten a bit nasty, just what he needed.

Certainly like to see him back here.

 

[evertonUSA]

Believe I saw him play alongside Stones for England U-21 in their World Cup, a rare U-21 game here in the States.

 

[Kurt.]

Well. He was in the first team for an extended period, but he has not secured that spot quite yet. I think he'd make a very good possession CB in Martinez's system.

Sporting Lisbon is having financial issues (who isn't atm in that part of Europe?) so he probably could be bought if we wanted him.

On the other hand, we have Jags, Alcarez, Heitinga, and Stones on the books as right footed center halves, so even with Jonny off in January, I don't think its a priority nor have I heard the slightest rumour.

I don't get all this 'right footed centre back.... Left footed centre back' thing..... The position requires you to be able to play across the whole of the back line....... I honestly believe whichever foot you favour shouldn't even be a consideration.... You can either play there or not.

 

[Christiffa25]

I don't get all this 'right footed centre back.... Left footed centre back' thing..... The position requires you to be able to play across the whole of the back line....... I honestly believe whichever foot you favour shouldn't even be a consideration.... You can either play there or not.

This. Whilst surely it's favourable to have a lefty and a righty, it certainly isn't essential. Terry has spent his whole career on the left side as have many others. Jags takes the left side for England without it affecting his performance. Personally don't think its that important.

And alcaraz is a CB who can also play LB and if I'm not wrong is also left footed so don't see the problem.

If heitinga goes, we will need another CB IMO. Jags distin stones and alcaraz is a good 4 to choice from but alcaraz has a more than questionable injury record. I'm hoping martins indi is a target but honestly can't see it till summer. Maybe RM will go with the 4 and use hibbert and Barry as Emergancy cover till the end of season.

 

[Ashtonian]

I think he would be a good investment for us in all honesty. A Blue who could well break into the England set up with a run of games over in this country and young as well.

For the question where would he fit in? Well picture a Jack Rodwell who is younger and better at the back, an all round utility player.

 

[Jacko93]

This. Whilst surely it's favourable to have a lefty and a righty, it certainly isn't essential. Terry has spent his whole career on the left side as have many others. Jags takes the left side for England without it affecting his performance. Personally don't think its that important.

And alcaraz is a CB who can also play LB and if I'm not wrong is also left footed so don't see the problem.

If heitinga goes, we will need another CB IMO. Jags distin stones and alcaraz is a good 4 to choice from but alcaraz has a more than questionable injury record. I'm hoping martins indi is a target but honestly can't see it till summer. Maybe RM will go with the 4 and use hibbert and Barry as Emergancy cover till the end of season.

Would anybody have Lescott back now? Seems willing to move, Citeh could be willing to sell, few years left in him and the style he's been playing with/training with for a few years would suit what Martinez would look for. Or have we moved on too much now.

My worry is, that Distin may not be here next year with his age (though likely he will be), while youth is preferable, experience is essential.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Would anybody have Lescott back now? Seems willing to move, Citeh could be willing to sell, few years left in him and the style he's been playing with/training with for a few years would suit what Martinez would look for. Or have we moved on too much now.

My worry is, that Distin may not be here next year with his age (though likely he will be), while youth is preferable, experience is essential.

Think he is out of contract at the end of the season. Have just said in another thread making Barry permanent would free up a loan space from City, which I would take Lescott. Very much for your reason.