Current Affairs Environmental Stuff

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We are basically goosed. Even if we rectified all the damage we do to the environment overnight take a hundred or so years to start taking effect.
Starting to remind me of our cousins in Africa that were really strong and exclusively controlled a region full of bountiful fruits. When something changed in the ecosystem and they lost their usual diet, they were unable to adapt and died out, unlike the other hominids, our ancestors, who had to continually strive to survive.

Maybe nature will stop this nonsense for us.
 
Starting to remind me of our cousins in Africa that were really strong and exclusively controlled a region full of bountiful fruits. When something changed in the ecosystem and they lost their usual diet, they were unable to adapt and died out, unlike the other hominids, our ancestors, who had to continually strive to survive.

Maybe nature will stop this nonsense for us.
It's all about growth growth which has got us in the mess we are in with the environment. When now it should be about sustainability sustainability.

Each and every country will need to have their own catastrophe which also need to shake the very foundations of their civilized existence.

This year alone ten of thousands of Africans dying from famine, couple hundred North Americans and Canadians dying from heat exhaustion, couple hundred Germans getting washed away and drowned is just meh!
 
It's all about growth growth which has got us in the mess we are in with the environment. When now it should be about sustainability sustainability.

Each and every country will need to have their own catastrophe which also need to shake the very foundations of their civilized existence.

This year alone ten of thousands of Africans dying from famine, couple hundred North Americans and Canadians dying from heat exhaustion, couple hundred Germans getting washed away and drowned is just meh!
I agree with the first paragraph, but the last may underestimate the current state.

Take Western North America. Drought for how long now? Water aquifers severely depleted, forest fires releasing additional co2 {as well as air-con demand contributing to the loop), energy production from dams under threat, and massive crop failures. It's not just a few hundred dead, the whole ecosystem is on the edge and millions of people may have to migrate in the near future.

@LinekersLegs what are your thoughts over there?
 
Press release

Firms must commit to net zero to win major government contracts​

New measures will require businesses to commit to net zero by 2050 before they can bid for major government contracts

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Surely, because of the way it's calculated, this will favour off shoring manufacturing, maybe even the businesses. Still, 2050, hahahaha...


Sick of greenwashing circus tricks meself like.
Great news. Anything we can reasonably do to reverse the damage we have done the last 150 years has to be a good thing
 
Great news. Anything we can reasonably do to reverse the damage we have done the last 150 years has to be a good thing
At face value, yes, but I don't think it amounts to anything other than a PR exercise via a paper-based con-trick. For instance, big bio-fuel power stations in the UK importing wood from the US to burn, but that doesn't count, it's from an off-shore source, the US also import theirs, again to burn.
 
At face value, yes, but I don't think it amounts to anything other than a PR exercise via a paper-based con-trick. For instance, big bio-fuel power stations in the UK importing wood from the US to burn, but that doesn't count, it's from an off-shore source, the US also import theirs, again to burn.
Sure, there will be rorts and box ticking excercises, but that shouldn't stop us doing what we can to minimise and try to reverse some of the damage done
 
At face value, yes, but I don't think it amounts to anything other than a PR exercise via a paper-based con-trick. For instance, big bio-fuel power stations in the UK importing wood from the US to burn, but that doesn't count, it's from an off-shore source, the US also import theirs, again to burn.

"net zero" itself is a con, its like telling alcoholics that as long as they go for a run at some point in the week they can still drink
 
Sure, there will be rorts and box ticking excercises, but that shouldn't stop us doing what we can to minimise and try to reverse some of the damage done
It's not just box-ticking, it's a full on shuffle-hustle grift. I hope you're right, but there are plenty of examples why it won't do anything to help.
 
"net zero" itself is a con, its like telling alcoholics that as long as they go for a run at some point in the week they can still drink
More like, they can drink as much as they want providing they pay a nominal amount to a teetotaler not to drink, or pay someone to drink less in the future than what he claims he will drink otherwise.
 
It's not just box-ticking, it's a full on shuffle-hustle grift. I hope you're right, but there are plenty of examples why it won't do anything to help.
On its own, no. But as a step in the right direction which enables future policies which will make a real difference, yes.
 
The state of this article the gulf stream currents are at the lowest for at least 1600 years, man a live they cant predict tomorrows weather with such certainty, terrible, let alone invent a time machine to go back a measure the currents accurately.

 
Oxfam says governments and companies are "hiding behind unreliable, unproven and unrealistic carbon removal schemes" in order to hit targets.
Global attempts are being made to reach net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
But the charity claims net zero targets are often a "greenwashing exercise".

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Danny Sriskandarajah, chief executive of charity's UK branch, said companies and governments are using the "smokescreen" of net zero to continue "dirty, business-as-usual activities".
"A prime example of the doublethink we are seeing is the oil and gas sector trying to justify its ongoing extraction of fossil fuels by promising unrealistic carbon removal schemes that require ludicrous amounts of land," he told the BBC.
 
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