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Did'nt some people buy it from Vets in the US of A?
Quite a few people did I believe.
Why would you pick 3 "polarising matters" where the opposing views were proven to be demonstrably false? In 2 of those "matters", lives were lost as a result of lies and disinformation being spread.
Free speech doesn't mean anyone can say anything without consequence. It never has and it never will. People have always been able to say dumb [Poor language removed] (as your posts on this forum attest), but you just have to accept the fallout when you do.
dholliday
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That's quite a claim....source?
There's no point in me posting the links as you will say "it's mainstream media and can't be believed". Or, like you did with the stats I posted the other day, you blamed bots.
I just nipped over to the COVID thread in the ale House and sure enough, you're there too, clogging the thread with your bollocks.
dholliday
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so that's a no on the sauce, then.
Sigh...
www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/03/14/republicans-increasingly-realize-theres-no-evidence-of-election-fraud-but-most-still-think-2020-election-was-stolen-anyway-poll-finds
www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2023/03/29/fox-news-ceo-called-trump-fact-checking-bad-for-business-email-shows
Fighting coronavirus disinformation
How to tackle disinformation on coronavirus by stating the facts on vaccines and COVID-19, how to identify conspiracy theories, and report disinformation.
Evidence Still Lacking to Support Ivermectin as Treatment for COVID-19 - FactCheck.org
Randomized controlled trials haven't found ivermectin is beneficial in treating COVID-19, although results for ongoing studies will provide a more definitive answer. Yet, a video presents two weak studies as “powerful” and “overwhelming” evidence that the medication works to combat COVID-19.
www.factcheck.org
Clinical Trials Show Ivermectin Does Not Benefit COVID-19 Patients, Contrary to Social Media Claims - FactCheck.org
Randomized clinical trials have repeatedly found that ivermectin does not benefit COVID-19 patients. The National Institutes of Health recommends against its use for COVID-19. Ivermectin enthusiasts continue to falsely claim the contrary.
www.factcheck.org
No evidence child porn was found on Hunter Biden’s laptop
Two weeks until Election Day, social media is rife with attacks on Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden. A New York Post story a
www.politifact.com
www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/hunter-biden-twitter-facebook-election-conspiracy-theories-1077735
There's literally hundreds more, but I'm sure you know that already.
Sigh...
www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/03/14/republicans-increasingly-realize-theres-no-evidence-of-election-fraud-but-most-still-think-2020-election-was-stolen-anyway-poll-finds
www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2023/03/29/fox-news-ceo-called-trump-fact-checking-bad-for-business-email-shows
Fighting coronavirus disinformation
How to tackle disinformation on coronavirus by stating the facts on vaccines and COVID-19, how to identify conspiracy theories, and report disinformation.commission.europa.eu
Evidence Still Lacking to Support Ivermectin as Treatment for COVID-19 - FactCheck.org
Randomized controlled trials haven't found ivermectin is beneficial in treating COVID-19, although results for ongoing studies will provide a more definitive answer. Yet, a video presents two weak studies as “powerful” and “overwhelming” evidence that the medication works to combat COVID-19.
Clinical Trials Show Ivermectin Does Not Benefit COVID-19 Patients, Contrary to Social Media Claims - FactCheck.org
Randomized clinical trials have repeatedly found that ivermectin does not benefit COVID-19 patients. The National Institutes of Health recommends against its use for COVID-19. Ivermectin enthusiasts continue to falsely claim the contrary.
No evidence child porn was found on Hunter Biden’s laptop
Two weeks until Election Day, social media is rife with attacks on Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden. A New York Post story a
www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/hunter-biden-twitter-facebook-election-conspiracy-theories-1077735
There's literally hundreds more, but I'm sure you know that already.
Actually forgot that Herr Horse-gel thinks that Trump won the 2020 election. Whack of qanon off him
dholliday
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lol very selective. This is your argument to ban anyone wishing to discuss these topics? The Hunter Biden one is hilariously specific: as if they employed a fake troll to post an outrageous claim, then debunked that.Sigh...
www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2023/03/14/republicans-increasingly-realize-theres-no-evidence-of-election-fraud-but-most-still-think-2020-election-was-stolen-anyway-poll-finds
www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2023/03/29/fox-news-ceo-called-trump-fact-checking-bad-for-business-email-shows
Fighting coronavirus disinformation
How to tackle disinformation on coronavirus by stating the facts on vaccines and COVID-19, how to identify conspiracy theories, and report disinformation.
Evidence Still Lacking to Support Ivermectin as Treatment for COVID-19 - FactCheck.org
Randomized controlled trials haven't found ivermectin is beneficial in treating COVID-19, although results for ongoing studies will provide a more definitive answer. Yet, a video presents two weak studies as “powerful” and “overwhelming” evidence that the medication works to combat COVID-19.
Clinical Trials Show Ivermectin Does Not Benefit COVID-19 Patients, Contrary to Social Media Claims - FactCheck.org
Randomized clinical trials have repeatedly found that ivermectin does not benefit COVID-19 patients. The National Institutes of Health recommends against its use for COVID-19. Ivermectin enthusiasts continue to falsely claim the contrary.
No evidence child porn was found on Hunter Biden’s laptop
Two weeks until Election Day, social media is rife with attacks on Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden. A New York Post story a
www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/hunter-biden-twitter-facebook-election-conspiracy-theories-1077735
There's literally hundreds more, but I'm sure you know that already.
That's what 'Fact-Checkers' do: they select a single outrageous claim from out there on the fringes, and somehow people like you interpret that to mean the entire topic is off limits.
No mate...that's not how robust debate works.
1) The US Elections had a bunch of questionable things about, some of them detailed here.
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions
time.com
Choice quote: "they were not rigging the election, they were fortifying it."
yeah....of course they were. The previous 4 years of deranged anti-Trump mania were just a coincidence.
2) the response to the pandemic has a ton of questionable things about it...your two links focus on one tiny aspect. Are you saying that folk questioning the lockdowns, vaccines, virus-origin should be barred from doing so?
3) the Hunter Biden laptop is confirmed real...there are references on there to shady Ukraine deals. The New York Post expose (which famously got them banned from Twitter in the pre-Elon era) was proven to be accurate. With your gloriously-selective 'fact-check' on this, are you saying no one should be allowed to discuss the laptop...at all?
You are a conspiracy loving loon. There is no article that can debunk every unhinged thought you have, because the way conspiracy theorists work is by making multiple, very broad claims and then moving the goalposts when challenged. I have given evidence to the topics and specific theories you have been spouting in here. I could post more sources debunking each claim, but I'd be wasting my time. How about you provide actual evidence and data to back your claims up, rather than just posting links to someone's youtube channel?lol very selective. This is your argument to ban anyone wishing to discuss these topics? The Hunter Biden one is hilariously specific: as if they employed a fake troll to post an outrageous claim, then debunked that.
That's what 'Fact-Checkers' do: they select a single outrageous claim from out there on the fringes, and somehow people like you interpret that to mean the entire topic is off limits.
No mate...that's not how robust debate works.
1) The US Elections had a bunch of questionable things about, some of them detailed here.
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions
Choice quote: "they were not rigging the election, they were fortifying it."
yeah....of course they were. The previous 4 years of deranged anti-Trump mania were just a coincidence.
2) the response to the pandemic has a ton of questionable things about it...your two links focus on one tiny aspect. Are you saying that folk questioning the lockdowns, vaccines, virus-origin should be barred from doing so?
3) the Hunter Biden laptop is confirmed real...there are references on there to shady Ukraine deals. The New York Post expose (which famously got them banned from Twitter in the pre-Elon era) was proven to be accurate. With your gloriously-selective 'fact-check' on this, are you saying no one should be allowed to discuss the laptop...at all?
dholliday
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Re-posting this. A sensational claim from @trueblue84 there.
Basically any 'opposing' views are 'proven to be demonstrably false'.
Like Kafka & O'Brien had a baby.
lol lol lol
These right wing nut jobs are beyond funny.
I wonder how they get dressed of a morning.
These right wing nut jobs are beyond funny.
I wonder how they get dressed of a morning.
dholliday
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Which conspiracy have I explicitly promoted?
Try to back up your claim by quoting a relevant post from me.
Give me an example of one of my "unhinged thoughts"...can you quote one?
Can you find me claiming Hunter Biden's laptop has 25,000 illegal images on it?
Can you find me claiming any of the things you apparently have debunked?
What claims specifically have I made that require more backing up? I've consistently used official government data, peer-reviewed studies and establishment-media.
What youtube channel?
Either you're mixing me up with someone else, or your grasp of reality is worryingly thin.
dholliday
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Groupthink:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in irrational or dysfunctional thinking.
Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs. This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation, and which may have little relation to objective reality.
Groupthink is a construct of social psychology, and influences important aspects of deviant cult behaviour.
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in irrational or dysfunctional thinking.
Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs. This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation, and which may have little relation to objective reality.
Groupthink is a construct of social psychology, and influences important aspects of deviant cult behaviour.
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