Election called tomorrow

[Whitebootman]

Is it over? Is it safe to come out now?

Tickets for the replay are due out soon.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Not without a box for 'no suitable candidate' freedom of speach also comes with a freedom not to 'speak'. My choice.

what's that ? a wish to abstain from voting as opposed to 'you're all crooks ...none of you' ?

 

[Matt Damon]

What should happen:

Lib-Lab pact to take power in order to force through a referendum on a change to proportional representation. That would avoid the mess we're in now and is an undoubtedly fairer system that the British people will support.

If the price of a pact is Brown resigning then so be it.

What could happen: a Lib-Con pact. Clegg bottles it and feels he has to go into coalition with the largest single party for legitimacy reasons...he then accepts something less than proportional representation from the Tories for Lib Dem support.

Whichever way you cut it - Lib-Lab/Lib-Con/Tory minority governemnt - it wont last for long and the country will go to the polls again later in the year.

It is absolutely hilarious you DAVEK you clown are referring to Proportional Representation now. You've had 13 years to bring it in. Only thinking of it now in a DESPERATE attempt to cling to power.

REMINDS ME OF THE KENWRIGHT-TOY , COMPARISON YOU OFTEN QUOTE.

GORDON'S IN HIS BUNKER REFUSING TO ACCEPT ITS OVER. The amount of spin I've heard suggesting Labour have any mandate is ridiculous.

2nd in the popular vote and 2nd in number of seats DAVEK.

= NO MANDATE FOR LABOUR to continue to govern.


HOPE JACKIE SMITH ENJOYS HER LONG RETIREMENT.

I enjoyed seeing that corrupt bitch leave for her - second or third home - who knows? She'll probably put a pay-per-view film on knowing her.



I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Labour's been booted.

It was also interesting to see the markets (currency and bonds) dropped 3% on the suggestion of a Lib-Lab coalition... reflects the ZERO confidence the markets have in Labour or Brown.

TAXI FOR DAVEK!

TAXI FOR BROWN!

 

[davek]

It is absolutely hilarious you DAVEK you clown are referring to Proportional Representation now. You've had 13 years to bring it in. Only thinking of it now in a DESPERATE attempt to cling to power.

REMINDS ME OF THE KENWRIGHT-TOY , COMPARISON YOU OFTEN QUOTE.

GORDON'S IN HIS BUNKER REFUSING TO ACCEPT ITS OVER. The amount of spin I've heard suggesting Labour have any mandate is ridiculous.

2nd in the popular vote and 2nd in number of seats DAVEK.

= NO MANDATE FOR LABOUR to continue to govern.


HOPE JACKIE SMITH ENJOYS HER LONG RETIREMENT.

I enjoyed seeing that corrupt bitch leave for her - second or third home - who knows? She'll probably put a pay-per-view film on knowing her.



I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Labour's been booted.

It was also interesting to see the markets (currency and bonds) dropped 3% on the suggestion of a Lib-Lab coalition... reflects the ZERO confidence the markets have in Labour or Brown.

TAXI FOR DAVEK!

TAXI FOR BROWN!

I'll have you banned from this forum. Pipe down.

The Tories have ****ed it up.

Deal with it.

Gordon Brown? Last seen in Number 10 drinking a nice wee dram of Glenfidich and going nowhere soon.



V for Victory.

 

[Matt Damon]

I'll have you banned from this forum. Pipe down.

The Tories have ****ed it up.

Deal with it.

Gordon Brown? Last seen in Number 10 drinking a nice wee dram of Glenfidich and going nowhere soon.



V for Victory.

True colours of Davek and Labour being shown. Disagree with them - and they'll "have you banned from this forum" - YOU BLERT !!!!!!!!!!!

(You couldn't anyway)



Yeah. Gordon better get a move on with his packing... not long left for him now.... squatting in Downing Street.


"Gordon Brown. He's never won an election as Prime Minister. In his life."

Brown's new political strategy = Claim squatters rights.

The melt.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

In all seriousness, tone it down.

Bitter, petty squabbles continuing from threads like this are why we banned political threads. Present your opinion, don't insult others for theirs.

 

[trebilcock66]

What should happen:

Lib-Lab pact to take power in order to force through a referendum on a change to proportional representation. That would avoid the mess we're in now and is an undoubtedly fairer system that the British people will support.

If the price of a pact is Brown resigning then so be it.

What could happen: a Lib-Con pact. Clegg bottles it and feels he has to go into coalition with the largest single party for legitimacy reasons...he then accepts something less than proportional representation from the Tories for Lib Dem support.

Whichever way you cut it - Lib-Lab/Lib-Con/Tory minority governemnt - it wont last for long and the country will go to the polls again later in the year.

What will actually happen:

The tories will claim that the country has rejected the labour party and Gordon Brown (it hasn't but that won't stop them...)
The Labour Party will say that it's always been in favour of electoral reform (it hasn't but it's desperate...)
The Liberal Democrats will claim that it's acting in the national interest as it tries to desperately form an alliance with whomever offers it PR. (It isn't but who cares?)

Brown will resign and write his memoirs which will make him a fortune before dividing his time between the lecture circuit in USA and working one day a month for a charity that nobody's ever heard of. Alan Johnson takes over and is instantly heralded as the saviour of the labour party. His poll ratings shoot up.

So the tories will form a minority government with a truncated Queen's Speech. Cameron and Osborne will act like they are in charge and be shown over the next few months to not have a clue what they're doing. Cameron's at best tenuous grasp of policy will be exposed as utterly vacuous and his poll ratings will plummet. The Lib dems, Labour and the unionists will bring down the so-called government and we'll have another General election this year. The Lib Dems will be slaughtered. The Labour Party and the Conservatives get a 30% share of the vote each on a 45% turnout. Chaos ensues.

I go into the back garden. Dig my own grave and slit my own throat.

 

[Matt Damon]

What will actually happen:

The tories will claim that the country has rejected the labour party and Gordon Brown (it hasn't but that won't stop them...)
The Labour Party will say that it's always been in favour of electoral reform (it hasn't but it's desperate...)
The Liberal Democrats will claim that it's acting in the national interest as it tries to desperately form an alliance with whomever offers it PR. (It isn't but who cares?)

Brown will resign and write his memoirs which will make him a fortune before dividing his time between the lecture circuit in USA and working one day a month for a charity that nobody's ever heard of. Alan Johnson takes over and is instantly heralded as the saviour of the labour party. His poll ratings shoot up.

So the tories will form a minority government with a truncated Queen's Speech. Cameron and Osborne will act like they are in charge and be shown over the next few months to not have a clue what they're doing. Cameron's at best tenuous grasp of policy will be exposed as utterly vacuous and his poll ratings will plummet. The Lib dems, Labour and the unionists will bring down the so-called government and we'll have another General election this year. The Lib Dems will be slaughtered. The Labour Party and the Conservatives get a 30% share of the vote each on a 45% turnout. Chaos ensues.

I go into the back garden. Dig my own grave and slit my own throat.

Conservatives got 2 million more votes than Labour.

 

[trebilcock66]

Conservatives got 2 million more votes than Labour.

Which does not mean that they've rejected the labour party. I voted for a party that I wanted to form a govt but that says nothing about which one I didn't want. Only PR via stv or a ranking of preferences can definitively deliver that....

Yeah, I understand that Cameron's got the most votes but it's disingenuous to say that these votes mean rejection of the other parties. 65% of the electorate did not vote Tory. By Osborne's logic, that means we've rejected them too, just not as much as labour or lib dems....

 

[Goat]

Lets all have an election if that massive whoppa Damon should be banned.

Im sure the people would speak then..

Wannabe Hollywood star OUT

 

[Matt Damon]

Which does not mean that they've rejected the labour party. I voted for a party that I wanted to form a govt but that says nothing about which one I didn't want. Only PR via stv or a ranking of preferences can definitively deliver that....

Yeah, I understand that Cameron's got the most votes but it's disingenuous to say that these votes mean rejection of the other parties. 65% of the electorate did not vote Tory. By Osborne's logic, that means we've rejected them too, just not as much as labour or lib dems....

By that logic - 70% of the electorate did not vote Labour either!

Yet Gordon Brown is currently squatting in Downing Street - acting as if he's got some mandate to govern. When 70% of the electorate didn't vote for him.

So now he's chiming on about "electoral reform" - basically change the rules to secure his position.

Some might call that DICTATORSHIP

 

[davek]

What will actually happen:

The tories will claim that the country has rejected the labour party and Gordon Brown (it hasn't but that won't stop them...)
The Labour Party will say that it's always been in favour of electoral reform (it hasn't but it's desperate...)
The Liberal Democrats will claim that it's acting in the national interest as it tries to desperately form an alliance with whomever offers it PR. (It isn't but who cares?)

Brown will resign and write his memoirs which will make him a fortune before dividing his time between the lecture circuit in USA and working one day a month for a charity that nobody's ever heard of. Alan Johnson takes over and is instantly heralded as the saviour of the labour party. His poll ratings shoot up.

So the tories will form a minority government with a truncated Queen's Speech. Cameron and Osborne will act like they are in charge and be shown over the next few months to not have a clue what they're doing. Cameron's at best tenuous grasp of policy will be exposed as utterly vacuous and his poll ratings will plummet. The Lib dems, Labour and the unionists will bring down the so-called government and we'll have another General election this year. The Lib Dems will be slaughtered. The Labour Party and the Conservatives get a 30% share of the vote each on a 45% turnout. Chaos ensues.

I go into the back garden. Dig my own grave and slit my own throat.

Nailed on.

It's stalemate. As you say, Cameron will take the reins in the short term (I'd be amazed, despite Brown hanging on, if the Lib Dems went into a coalition with Labour) but simply cant govern. It's impossible for the Tories to get in and do what they want.

Autumn at the latest for a new election...which will be a period when the Labour Party will have to get it's act together in terms of financing a campaign.

Partisanship aside, I think Cameron has blown his chance in history. You get one chance at seizing the day and he flunked it. He'll be a busted flush by the next election.

 

[trebilcock66]

By that logic - 70% of the electorate did not vote Labour either!

Yet Gordon Brown is currently squatting in Downing Street - acting as if he's got some mandate to govern. When 70% of the electorate didn't vote for him.

So now he's chiming on about "electoral reform" - basically change the rules to secure his position.

Some might call that DICTATORSHIP

Well we're agreed on that, then. Brown would say that he's within his rights to try to form a govt because he's the sitting PM. As we have no written constitution this so-called right is there only because of established practice. That's not right. Treats the elctorate as stupid if he thinks we'll believe his deathbed conversion to PR. Ditto Alan Johnson. Hain - although a complete melt in other respects - has been consistent over the years about his support for PR ever since he was a Young Liberal.

But Osborne and Cameron are also guilty of twisting the truth. There is no decisive result. So to say that the voters have decisively rejected the labour govt simply isn't true. Also treats us all as dumb if they think we'll swallow such tripe.

I wish politicians would all grow up....

 

[davek]

Cameron about to speak in the next 10 minutes about how he's "won" the election. and that he demands the keys to 10 Downing St....or he'll run to his Nanny and cry.

at Bullingdon Boy.

The man who threw the election away.

 

[Matt Damon]

Cameron about to speak in the next 10 minutes about how he's "won" the election. and that he demands the keys to 10 Downing St....or he'll run to his Nanny and cry.

at Bullingdon Boy.

The man who threw the election away.

Even with the Liberals supporting - Brown doesn't have a majority. What does that say?