I grew up and saw us win the League as a kid then when that side disintegrated pretty quickly, had to endure their Shankly years through school with Keegan etc when we mediocre. I still skitted them and still would never want to be them in spite of their successes then. Likewise Istanbul....if we can endure that circus we can endure them doing anything. I was never ever jealous or, as that term has been re-modified, "bitter" as, coming, up to my 60th birthday this month with a failing heart, Id still rather be an Evertonian than to use a Ronnie Goodlass term, "one o them". Theyre playing better than us for sure with attacking prowess... and also like us with a defence like a colander. So what...at the end of the day, nothing will prevent them being, as our old chant still says, what they are. Still brings a smile when I hear it.