ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

[Walken]

Exactly.

RED seems like a sound poster, even DMorgan2 bar his ridiculous views on Collymore seems to just enjoy a bit of banter. Thing is as soon as something is said about LFC that the sheep don't follow they instantly revert to type and go all 'kopite'.

Also I might add, nobody has labelled the entirelty of LFC's fanbase as racist, we were having debate on the tweets and how Everton fans and Liverpool fans reacted differently to them.

well said, no need for anyone to try an jump on the moral highground

 

[CountyRd]

I've got no interest in blaming anyone for anything lid.

 

[d34noj]

That was in bad taste, but I wasn't even born when Heysel happened, will that stop you calling me a murderer? Probably not. Cay on though. Most of my mates are blues but as soon as we talk footy we fall out, it's just how it is.

Thing is mate, its probably your fault why you all fall out!

'Suarez is sound lid, best player in the world,*worth £100m, this years our year, we never have any money to spend blah blah blah'

If anybody disagrees toys get thrown out - I've had reds work for me I know exactly how you lot get, its like you are being personally victimised.

 

[CountyRd]

Yes it's all our fault.

Suarez is a fantastic player, a detestable person no doubt but a fantastic player.

 

[toffeejack]

it's a shame that that cheating little ****e who's not good enough to even attempt to beat aston villa on ability has started another race row. even worse is that we've seen it all before from them, they blame everyone else but themselves and saurez is single handedly making the majority of them all look like mugs.

i'm not sure how a reasonable POV could make someone hurl ferocious verbal and racial abuse at someone. not looking forward to the day that one of these gets on the air and says that kind of stuff to collymore on a phone-in.

there will be kids listening and it's not right, we're in 2014 now, fingers crossed it doesn't happen like.

 

[CountyRd]

What race row? Lad give your head a wobble, suarez diving didn't start anything. Uneducated Neanderthals replying to the king of wums on twitter made this 'race row' not Suarez diving.

 

[Steve0]

Thing is mate, its probably your fault why you all fall out!

'Suarez is sound lid, best player in the world,*worth £100m, this years our year, we never have any money to spend blah blah blah'

If anybody disagrees toys get thrown out - I've had reds work for me I know exactly how you lot get, its like you are being personally victimised.

I'm probably biased but it really is all down to them. You point out how Suarez probably shouldn't bite people or something similar and the heckles rise and they start talking nonsense like how they can't have a 'serious conversation' with you and we're 'bitter etc.

Meh, they're a weird bunch.
Always the victim...

 

[d34noj]

Yes it's all our fault.

Suarez is a fantastic player, a detestable person no doubt but a fantastic player.

Goes without saying mate - I actually thought he was overrated up until this season (you can vault me on that) but since his most recent ban he has been impeccable - still IMO not as good as Aguero though.

End of the day, and its hurting me to type this as I sound like my wife... IT'S ONLY A GAME.

Ouch. Hurts to read it but its true. I have more pressing things to worry about than if a buck-toothed Uruaguaian millionaire is tripping over thin air. It'll get me riled up if I see it but bloody hell I'm not gonna start tweeting dogging ex-footballers telling him I'm gonna burn down his mansion because he doesn't follow my views.

THAT is where your lot go wrong. You just don't know when to stop.

 

[lmurkder]

Excellent point well made, though even for neutrals there's probably a residual stigma related to their fans documented history of violence and racism.

Just wish that if there were any pretending to be Blues on this fine forum, that they would feel bold enough to post as reds, like RED and Morgan etc, both of whom clearly feel that there's little to be embarrassed about in being a Liverpool fan no matter how unusual their opinions on football can often appear to "the uninitiated", more normal, football fan.

Good night sir, and to all fellow fans of Merseyside football !

I agree. There are a large number of reds pretending to be Evertonians on here at the moment.

If you're going to popcorn don't be afraid of letting people know who you are.

 

[Walken]

I've got no interest in blaming anyone for anything lid.

what you said in the lukaku thread argues otherwise, disgusting accusations them, the lowest

 

[CountyRd]

My lot?

I can only represent my family lid, not thousands of reds in this city and god knows wherever else (but that's another matter, iPad filming, picture taking, club shop frequenting scruffs).
I don't go on twitter, I don't go on Facebook, I speak about the match with the lads at work or in the ale house, and they're all more rational than some of the ****e I've read on here, mostly from non locals which I find hard to understand.

 

[dholliday]

still IMO not as good as Aguero though.

Agree with that.

I agree. There are a large number of reds pretending to be Evertonians on here at the moment.

If you're going to popcorn don't be afraid of letting people know who you are.

haha! classic comedy right there.

 

[CountyRd]

I have seen them lad, I'm not a blagger. I've seen our fans sing Munich songs at Old Trafford, hiss at spurs and much worse, what's the point in lying about it happening? It happens.

 

[lmurkder]

That was in bad taste, but I wasn't even born when Heysel happened, will that stop you calling me a murderer? Probably not. Cay on though. Most of my mates are blues but as soon as we talk footy we fall out, it's just how it is.

You claimed to not be a red earlier when challenged BY ME

YOU making slurs about fingers over faces by Everton supporters. Something you repeated.

You didn't withdraw it either.

Now is the time you did.

 

[hullefc]

I've said this a zillion times before, but the mainstream media having bloody ex-kopite players in their pundit ranks everywhere you look means that 50/50 decisions and cheating won't often be decided against the red team. Even subliminally, a ref will know if he favours the opposing team, he'll get it in the neck from the TV pundits, watched by millions.

I hope Mourinho's comments on it the other day will force an actual Rule which states something like "no more than xxx players from any given club may work in the media, so as to avoid favouritism".

'Getting it in the neck from TV pundits' is central to the cancer that is effecting the game in Britain. I'll add that 'getting it in the neck from certain managers' is equally cancerous.

There are a number of FIFA appointed English referees Oliver, Clattenberg, Atkinson etc., to further their career in the game they do not want any adverse publicity. Managers like Mourinho have a loud voice in England and Europe, tread on his toes and you will get the full force of his anger. This plays on the refs mind in particular the FIFA ones and they will 'favour' Chelsea. An example was the recent Chelsea/RS game when most of the big decisions went Chelsea's way.

The same applies to the RS media pundits, which is nearly, 50% of all punditry. Any ref that gives decisions they don't like will be castigated in the media, Mason and Webb recently. They will instigate a debate about refs competence. Not one person in the media wanted to raise the issue of the competency of the ref or liner at the Stoke/LFC match when there was a clear handball by Sterling and a blatant dive. This type of treatment effects refs and if Moss hadn't given the pen against Villa and LFC lost he would have been blamed and his ability questioned.

Referees on the whole are not strong enough to stand up to this 'intimidation' and this effects the result and certain teams get more favourable decisions going their way and as a result get more points. The RS have fell down the pecking order against those that are in Europe, Man City, Arsenal, Manu and Chelsea. But against the other 15 teams they seem to get decisions going their way.