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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


I mean I'm pretty sure the Met deal with terrorist attacks in London pretty well but they failed massively at Wembley last year...
Wembley was minus 30k seats and this was just after a pretty much 15 month of lockdowns . London Was far more swamped than Paris . I know of at least half a dozen who bunked in and about the same who paid well over the odds .

liverpool are flat out denying ANY blame on their fans part. That’s a problem .
 

Wembley was minus 30k seats and this was just after a pretty much 15 month of lockdowns . London Was far more swamped than Paris . I know of at least half a dozen who bunked in and about the same who paid well over the odds .

liverpool are flat out denying ANY blame on their fans part. That’s a problem .
I agree with you there.

Do you agree it was a problem that UEFA came out with a blatant lie at first, and then the French government came out with figures that there was no way could have been verified by the time they did come out with them, and insisted no blame was on them?

What they're doing now, shouldering responsibility, is better. And that's what the RS need to do - and like you I unfortunately doubt they will.
 
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there is ‘hundreds’ in just this one bundle
and absolutely disgraceful if it's true

But how in the world are we supposed to verify that picture? I actually do think that's probably true btw, but none of us know for sure. That tweet is from a Man City fan. We don't know do we.

Because, like you, I know what they're like, I don't actually doubt that there was loads of fake tickets. I did doubt that there was ever 30-40k, but at least they have now clarified fully - after some struggles - that that's not what they meant.
 
I agree with you there.

Do you agree it was a problem that UEFA came out with a blatant lie at first, and then the French government came out with figures that there was no way could have been verified by the time they did come out with them, and insisted no blame was on them?

What they're doing now, shouldering responsibility, is better. And that's what the RS need to do - and like you I unfortunately doubt they will.
If they lied yes of course I do . not being funny 300 fakes is enough to cause problems. There was definitely a couple of thousand . I’ve never for one minute thought there was 30k fakes .
 
and absolutely disgraceful if it's true

But how in the world are we supposed to verify that picture? I actually do think that's probably true btw, but none of us know for sure. That tweet is from a Man City fan. We don't know do we.

Because, like you, I know what they're like, I don't actually doubt that there was loads of fake tickets. I did doubt that there was ever 30-40k, but at least they have now clarified fully - after some struggles - that that's not what they meant.
Why wouldn’t it be true ? The evidence is right in front of you
 

If they lied yes of course I do . not being funny 300 fakes is enough to cause problems. There was definitely a couple of thousand . I’ve never for one minute thought there was 30k fakes .
UEFA lied, they blamed it on late fans. And doubled down on that until they came out with a different statement after the game.

I don't think there's any defence of that from a footballing authority. Especially one that is also being scrutinised because of the mess in Seville too.
 
and absolutely disgraceful if it's true

But how in the world are we supposed to verify that picture? I actually do think that's probably true btw, but none of us know for sure. That tweet is from a Man City fan. We don't know do we.

Because, like you, I know what they're like, I don't actually doubt that there was loads of fake tickets. I did doubt that there was ever 30-40k, but at least they have now clarified fully - after some struggles - that that's not what they meant.
I took it as 30/40k ATTEMPTS at getting in .
 
UEFA lied, they blamed it on late fans. And doubled down on that until they came out with a different statement after the game.

I don't think there's any defence of that from a footballing authority. Especially one that is also being scrutinised because of the mess in Seville too.
That’s fine. But Liverpool refuse ANY blame . They themselves and our media are LYING about fakes and bunking in . there is blame to go around . Except Madrid
 
Why wouldn’t it be true ? The evidence is right in front of you
Hate to break it to you, but that's an unverified photo. So it's not going to be used as 'evidence' any time soon.

It absolutely could be - and knowing that mob, probably is - a picture that someone took before they went to Paris to sell them.

But it could also be someone who printed out one fake ticket, that they could easily have made, and posted it to Twitter next to a stack of paper.

So playing devil's advocate, that ain't evidence of any sort that would stand up.
 
That’s fine. But Liverpool refuse ANY blame . They themselves and our media are LYING about fakes and bunking in . there is blame to go around . Except Madrid
I've heard journalists saying that they did see and know of fans who bunked in and did not deny that they had. They said that the numbers being bandied around by the authorities were way off the mark and the response was also awful. Which it was.

It's 2022, it shouldn't be happening. And yes, that club need to sort their own house out first.
 

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