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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

I’m happy they’re out, I can’t be doing with doom mongering day in day out though.
I'm delighted they're out, but I had an awful feeling that they were going to spawn it like they always do, as I think @Saint Domingo did - Im made up to be proven wrong on that one!

I chose to not watch the rs (city-dortmund for me), but it didn't sound like a comfortable evening or watch?

I can't speak for others, but expecting them to spunk things for me is kind of a self defence system to deal with the ridiculous luck and jammyness that they always seem to get - I wouldn't call it doom and gloom per se.

Hopefully Satan will abandon them and they get a taste of real bad luck, footballing wise, such as that which we have suffered over the years.
 

This article in the Guardian nailed it yesterday:


And this is the thing about Madrid. They’re just so unafraid, so certain of their own version of events. Time and again very, very good players perform up to the top of their range. They will now face Chelsea in another semi‑final – and what a monument this decade-old Madrid generation has become.

Four Champions Leagues, three league titles, six different managers – through it all those grand old meringues have eased up through the gears at the right moment, playing no obvious style or “philosophy”, just a kind of Madrid-ball: high quality, fearless, big personality players doing the right things at the right moments.


This Madrid team was already a superpower before Liverpool’s star began to rise. The same group of players, more or less, has now seen off Liverpool’s own champion generation. They will not be moved.

Veering off topic slightly but top players playing with quality following no certain ‘philosophy’, thinking for themselves on the pitch to win big games in big moments. I wonder who put that in place? Maybe the manager who was the first out of those 6 different managers to win the CL and whose protégée won the rest.
 
This article in the Guardian nailed it yesterday:


And this is the thing about Madrid. They’re just so unafraid, so certain of their own version of events. Time and again very, very good players perform up to the top of their range. They will now face Chelsea in another semi‑final – and what a monument this decade-old Madrid generation has become.

Four Champions Leagues, three league titles, six different managers – through it all those grand old meringues have eased up through the gears at the right moment, playing no obvious style or “philosophy”, just a kind of Madrid-ball: high quality, fearless, big personality players doing the right things at the right moments.


This Madrid team was already a superpower before Liverpool’s star began to rise. The same group of players, more or less, has now seen off Liverpool’s own champion generation. They will not be moved.

Yes, they are just levels ahead of Liverpool in mentality and quality. I've had some idiotic Liverpool fans saying to me that Madrid were wobbling. No they weren't. They know they have a top goalkeepers, Liverpools forwards are not very clinical finishers at the best of times, and that they relish having lots of space and an open game, They sat in, an asked Liverpool to make a clear chance. You could argue they made 1 clear chance, (Salah's, which was still 18 yards out, but a clear shot on goal with no defender between the goal and the striker). When you have a GK as good as theirs, you'd still say it's little more than a half chance really. That was 2 minutes in thanks to a lucky bounce. After that there was precious little. I don't think Courtois was made to make a single great save (in the way Alissons was v Vinicious and Benzema double chance).

Madrid had 2 clear opportunities. Benzema has a free header 4 yards out. Vinicious has a 1 on one from about 10 yards where he just has to dink it over the keeper. Benzema is then inches away on the follow up from tapping it into an empty net. I mean they had other good openings, but we can just focus on those 2. Liverpool didn't make a single chance even approaching either of those.

This was Madrid only sending 2-3 men forward for attacks. They told the likes of Modric, Kroos, Valverde etc to conserve energy. There was no need to waste energy on the likes of Liverpool when far bigger challenges away. What do people think happens if they actually started committing some players to these counter attacks, so instead of 2-3 players to defend they have 5 or 6? Exactly what happens in the 1st leg. They score 3 goals (and this is after declaring on 60 minutes in that match).

Madrid Tyson Furied them. They just stuck them on the end of a jab, and moved about a bit. Liverpool were akin to a boxer lashing loads of punches who ran out of steam in about round 7. They had a couple of moments but that was it.
 

I’m still looking for evidence that all koppites are racist and b) that LFC are a racist club. Using Holgate as evidence is like your mentor Goebbels’ technique. Firmino supposedly made a racist remark which neither the referee or the tv picked up, he spoke in portugese, his native tongue which Holgate cannot speak. You trust Evra? Goebbels had a PhD from Heidelburg University, before he join the NSDAP. Like you he made blanket statements with no basis in reality and called them truth. Unsurprisingly you didn’t answer my question about where you are from, you cannot be from Liverpool; as a scouser born and bred, I cannot believe someone from Here shows your level of hatred towards people from the same City. And for your information the UAR is recognised by the UN as racist, the USA isn’t. Some people in the USA are, as are, no doubt, some Liverpool and Everton supporters. It was Evertonians who chrisened Liverpool Niggerpool in the 1980s and Goodison which according to a number of black footballers had the most racist crowd in the 90s. But that was in the past and I wouldn’t accuse today’s Evertonians of this. City’s owners were found guilty of cheating the fair play rules. Unlike you I deal in evidence, I suggest you examine the conditions and treatment of South Asian and African workers in the Gulf States, and the treatment of disidents there, especially in Abu Dhabi and Qatar. Then tell me Mansoor and his ilk aren’t racist. I don’ understand your final point. You said Anfield was a no go area, I pointed out that the area around both grounds is similar and neither are no go areas. I have Evertonian friends, and like me they think you are an ignorant bigot just like your mentor Goebbels, who also believed that when he said something it became truth. Awaiting a ban, if not further comment will follow.

Great post mate
I'd like to make a suitable response but work frowns on me drinking heavily at my desk
 

This article in the Guardian nailed it yesterday:


And this is the thing about Madrid. They’re just so unafraid, so certain of their own version of events. Time and again very, very good players perform up to the top of their range. They will now face Chelsea in another semi‑final – and what a monument this decade-old Madrid generation has become.

Four Champions Leagues, three league titles, six different managers – through it all those grand old meringues have eased up through the gears at the right moment, playing no obvious style or “philosophy”, just a kind of Madrid-ball: high quality, fearless, big personality players doing the right things at the right moments.


This Madrid team was already a superpower before Liverpool’s star began to rise. The same group of players, more or less, has now seen off Liverpool’s own champion generation. They will not be moved.

Real Madrid seemed at ease throughout the entire game. They were never fazed.

They looked to play out from the back but intelligently, not because they've been told they must. They were always looking to play the ball forward.

They let the RS have possession, they knew the majority of the time it would go to one flank and the final ball would be poor. Stats might tell one story but Coutouis was never that busy.

There have been much better Real Madrid sides but I watched this group and hoped to myself that we'd be playing that way in a few years, showing no fear and positive in possession.
 

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