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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


I just don't get this school of thought, i mean they spent money like others did but Klopp and the recruitment team chose to spend that money on an extra midfielder and start the season with 3 CB despite them having to play in 4 competitions not FSG.
It's just the usual desperation, by Liverpool supporters, the ex player brigade and the biased media with their complete agenda to keep Liverpool fc top of the pile. That agenda also means they can now turn on their owners, the minute, they stop buying, a) The most expensive goalkeeper in the world at the time, b) The most expensive defender in the world at the time. And loading up with expensive, midfielders and attackers.
This year, they spent £30m on a 30 year old midfielder and £45m on an attacker, add £10m on a fullback we've never seen and two centre halves. Feel a bit sorry for FSG, no matter what they spend now, it won't matter until they are top of the league and winning trophies every season. They've created a greedy, obsessive monster that needs feeding all the time.
 
Spot on.
On a highly compliant media are very much a part of the cause of this.
They could stop it in no time at all by illuminating it when it happens week after week.
However, as we all know, there is absolutely zero chance of that happening any time soon.
They dare not attack Liverpool in any way regardless of it being 100% valid.
It's a bizarre situation but if any of them breaks rank they will lose their jobs.
And will have to delete their internet history, from the age of 10 upwards....
 

Even Leicester didn't give so many excuses for their title defence and they nearly got relegated the next season.

The amount of lackeys in the media that are bending over backwards to try and explain what's happened to Liverpool is just incredulous.

They haven't been 'unlucky' this season as so many would try and have you believe. They have actually been incredibly lucky over the entirety of Klopp's tenure before this season and no one that has even a passing interest in them just isn't used to key players missing games through injury. We have 5 or 6 key players out for large periods every single season without fail. In Klopp's entire tenure, the only player I can think of that's been missing for large parts is Oxlade-Chamberlain, who doesn't give a toss about playing football anyway.

Jamie Carragher showed a graph on Monday night football last night and it showed how they still have a very similar squad to the 2018 final and of the players still there, everyone of them bar Henderson had played some part in about 85% of Liverpool's matches. The little roided ferret Robertson has played 94% of their games and that is beyond belief for a full-back who flies up and down all game.

What I'd give to be able to field our first choice players in 85% of our matches.
 
If a tree falls in a forest and there is no one there to see it, did it really happen?

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It's not beyond them still to have an open top bus even after city win the league... so after City win the league of course the ideal scenario would be vaccine has done its job and for us to win the FA Cup and have an open top bus in may with the streets packed.
 
GET DEM YANKS OUT

DIC IN
The real funny thing with the DIC stuff, is the stunt they (mainly they although the entire league really) regarding Saudi and Newcastle has meant any glimmer of hope for as such investment of that nature for any side has died. Shot themselves in the foot.

If I would know no better, I'd say FSG did that to prevent any pressure building for them to have to sell cheaply (or sell the cash cow at all) if another Saudi became interesting in Liverpool.
 

Even Leicester didn't give so many excuses for their title defence and they nearly got relegated the next season.

The amount of lackeys in the media that are bending over backwards to try and explain what's happened to Liverpool is just incredulous.

They haven't been 'unlucky' this season as so many would try and have you believe. They have actually been incredibly lucky over the entirety of Klopp's tenure before this season and no one that has even a passing interest in them just isn't used to key players missing games through injury. We have 5 or 6 key players out for large periods every single season without fail. In Klopp's entire tenure, the only player I can think of that's been missing for large parts is Oxlade-Chamberlain, who doesn't give a toss about playing football anyway.

Jamie Carragher showed a graph on Monday night football last night and it showed how they still have a very similar squad to the 2018 final and of the players still there, everyone of them bar Henderson had played some part in about 85% of Liverpool's matches. The little roided ferret Robertson has played 94% of their games and that is beyond belief for a full-back who flies up and down all game.

What I'd give to be able to field our first choice players in 85% of our matches.
Excellent post.
On Sunday they had 8 of their first 11 out and also Thiago.
Last season 'Trent' was hailed as the best right back in the world and
'Hendo' was the FWA player of the year by some distance. It's just excuse
after excuse which is perpetuated and supported by the media.
Every single team gets injuries. All of them. That's why they all have a full
squad of 25 players. And there is the problem for Klopp & Liverpool. He hasn't
put together a squad where he can replace or rotate. This with him being unable
to change things tactically and adapt is where the problems are. It's as plain as
the nose on your face but the media simply refuse to report this way and repeatedly
give both Klopp & Liverpool a free pass.
 
Henry won’t like this, they’ve shelled out world record fees and world record amounts not that long ago. This concerted and coordinated effort by the media to give the fans a scapegoat will not go down well.

The likely end of this is likely to be quite a bitter and contracted civil war, between those who take Klopps side, and those who take the owners. I mean honestly, I can see both sides.

Some important points to note from this though. Firstly any Liverpool fan who thinks they can bounce FSG out like they did H & G is living in dreamworld. They are in much deeper than H & G were and probably need the Liverpool cash cow even more than they did. They also saw what happened to H & G and believe me, they will have put precautions in place to ensure they can't have a sale forced, at a nominal price and ensuring they get none of the money they've loaned the club back. The key thing is, at board level, with the exception of Dalglish they are all FSG loyalists. I'm not even sure if Dalglish is on the board. But essentially they are FSG loyalists, who know they will get another job in their stable if it all goes wrong. They have got a situation where they are not getting outvoted at board level.

In fighting of this nature rarely helps any football club. When Benitez started on this track, they went from 1st in February, to in the relegation zone within 18 months, with him collapsing to 8th place in the league in between. While some of the structures are stronger for them, other parts are a lot riskier now than 10 years ago. So from the outside we should welcome this divergence of opinion.

More and more journalists are turning now too. It looks coordinated. I am not sure who is leading it, whether it goes all the way back to Klopp, but it feels coordinated. Even the owners stumping up the cash for 2 CB's hasn't abetted the general feeling.

I would have said this was mad even 3 months ago, never mind a year ago, but I really can see a world where Klopp is removed from him job, or makes his position completely untenable. I always felt he was a bit quirky and nuts, but fundamentally understood the "project" Liverpool were going to. Essentially not competing on price for the top players, locating value in the market, and where a massive sale could be made, going the extra mile on a replacement. Part of that implies though, that you know most seasons you won't be competing with manchester City. You made do for a couple of years, then you will have a drop off, and the process starts again.

Somewhere along the line it looks like he has forgotten this, or he has moved on his end of the bargain. Whether that is because he has seen City initially struggle, and a side that will probably not get 100 points, and feels they could have got another title. Or whether he has has a change of heart, I'm not sure. But he doesn't look like manager who is relishing what is likely to be a rebuild job- potentially quite a substantial one, next summer. He looks the sort who will make a lot of problem if he doesn't like something as well.
 
Excellent post.
On Sunday they had 8 of their first 11 out and also Thiago.
Last season 'Trent' was hailed as the best right back in the world and
'Hendo' was the FWA player of the year by some distance. It's just excuse
after excuse which is perpetuated and supported by the media.
Every single team gets injuries. All of them. That's why they all have a full
squad of 25 players. And there is the problem for Klopp & Liverpool. He hasn't
put together a squad where he can replace or rotate. This with him being unable
to change things tactically and adapt is where the problems are. It's as plain as
the nose on your face but the media simply refuse to report this way and repeatedly
give both Klopp & Liverpool a free pass.

They were just Van Dijk short. Thats the reality from what they have said. Thiago was going to play with Henderson an Wijnaldum. Jones would have been out and Fabinho would have played too, likely at CB.

You had bigger players missing with Aguero and KDB. All 3 of those players are world class. City were more hampered and played Liverpool off the park.

I know you probably don't like him, but Roy Keane was spot on. The excues are ridiculous. I am seeing a lot of Liverpool fans saying "oh well City used the excuse of Laporte" and you think, well City lost Ottamendi, Stones and Fernandino as well, but I don't remember any comment on this. Not a jot.

It was all just about Pep being a fraud etc etc. I don't think Pep made any excuses, or statements about other teams getting extra rest.
 
It's not beyond them still to have an open top bus even after city win the league... so after City win the league of course the ideal scenario would be vaccine has done its job and for us to win the FA Cup and have an open top bus in may with the streets packed.
It would be truly beyond hilarious if they have a parade after some other team has won the title.
Just how cringeworthy would that be? In a small way I hope they do. Just to watch the sycophantic
media fawn all over an out of date asterisks title what would be the biggest none event in football history.
 
It would be truly beyond hilarious if they have a parade after some other team has won the title.
Just how cringeworthy would that be? In a small way I hope they do. Just to watch the sycophantic
media fawn all over an out of date asterisks title what would be the biggest none event in football history.
I am hearing Man City are saying that if they do win the league this year, then they might let the other shower ride downstairs on the open top parade bus; providing that they do not smash it up!
 

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