ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[helpimonfire]

The media has always portrayed Klopp as a manager every loves, when the truth is, you would love him if he was your manager but everyone else can’t stand him.
When he ran on the pitch against us, any other manager would of got a ban but not Klopp, the media made out he was right to do it and it’s part of the game.
Had Mourinho done it, would have been a totally different story

I hope Mo does it tonight

 

[helpimonfire]

I actually think on a lot of occassions the crowd work against them at Anfield.
The season before last when we pipped them by a point to the title was a prime example.
SKY had scheduled virtually all of the matches so they played first and the pressure was
all on City to play catch up and win. I watched a few of their games. The crowd were a nightmare!
If they hadn't scored in the first 30 minutes the crowd starting getting, nervous, edgy and went deathly quiet.
This transmitted itself to the players for sure and did them no favours at all. As you say, apart from the piped
in music at the begining it really isn't anything special. Go to any ground when the home team is playing a
big rival and the atmosphere is good. Klanfield is nothing special at all. I've been there in the past when City
played them (I got kicked out and was on MOTD being escorted out of the ground - but that's another story!)
and it is bang average at best and thats when are winning. Another media created myth which is constantly
perpetuated until it becomes fact. Goebbels had nothing on these guys. Infact he could have learnt a thing or two.

I want to hear the MOTD story ha ha

 

[degsy]

It was the CIA, Cuban Exiles, the Mob, the Russians, and I saw smoke coming from the grassy knoll.

Not even a mention for the magic bullet?

 

[Tipp blue]

The media has always portrayed Klopp as a manager every loves, when the truth is, you would love him if he was your manager but everyone else can’t stand him.
When he ran on the pitch against us, any other manager would of got a ban but not Klopp, the media made out he was right to do it and it’s part of the game.
Had Mourinho done it, would have been a totally different story

That just shows how passionate he is... apparently

 

[PaddyJames]

Most of their stuff is just dirge. I read a piece with post boy Pearce the other day and hes traipsing up apparently it rained in pre season which affected morale as a reason.

I'm not going to waste time reading this, but can I guess the reasons are:
1) Pickford/Everton
2) Var/refs
3) No fans- it uniquely affects them as only they gain or lose advantage (this will not be in any way quantified)
4) Schedule (again it wont take into account others having the same predicament)
5) Injuries (separate to point 1, but again will not take into account injuries to others).

How many of those excuses is it listing?

Raining? Hahahaha one thing after another with them/him , post the link please mate, my cousin is obsessed with his drivel. Spends his day typing "Mbappe Liverpool" "Mbappe Pearce" into twitter

 

[catcherintherye]

Raining? Hahahaha one thing after another with them/him , post the link please mate, my cousin is obsessed with his drivel. Spends his day typing "Mbappe Liverpool" "Mbappe Pearce" into twitter

It's on the Athletic mate, so not sure I'm allowed. @roydo am I allowed to paste a bit of Pearce's Athletic article in here mate, or is it a no/no?

 

[catcherintherye]

All them plus throwing the two young CBs under the bus.

In fairness their two "young" (aged 20 and 24) centre backs are rubbish. I'd say championship players, but I really do think thats being kind.

 

[roydo]

It's on the Athletic mate, so not sure I'm allowed. @roydo am I allowed to paste a bit of Pearce's Athletic article in here mate, or is it a no/no?

Thanks for asking mate.

We prefer to respect The Athletcs subscription based content business model.

 

[davek]

In fairness their two "young" (aged 20 and 24) centre backs are rubbish. I'd say championship players, but I really do think thats being kind.

I said so myself a couple of weeks back mate. They're muck, and the lads they have out on loan are too.

 

[catcherintherye]

Thanks for asking mate.

We prefer to respect The Athletcs subscription based content business model.

No problems at all and I fully understand (and agree it's a good principle to take).

@PaddyJames Sorry mate, I can't quote but he states as one of the factors was it rained a lot in pre-season which meant they had to spend longer than they'd hoped indoors as otherwise they'd get wet. It was rather sraping the barrel.

Oh and tell your cousin, there's more chance of marrying Mbappe than them signing him.

 

[catcherintherye]

I said so myself a couple of weeks back mate. They're muck, and the lads they have out on loan are too.

Yes, it's lso amazing that we haven't seen anymore of this Billy kid they were banging on about as well. I know he's only 18/19 or whatever (a couple of years older than Brainthwaite was when he made a debut) but if he can't game ahead of those two numpties, he's got no chance.

It's funny really, I watched their wonderkids play our under 23's. They had all on shown, Clarkson, Koumetio, Sepp (who they wasted 4 million on). They were fine, and deserved the draw they got. Nothing more than that though. They are about half way up the reserves league. I was a bit underwhelmbed to be honest.

 

[davek]

Yes, it's lso amazing that we haven't seen anymore of this Billy kid they were banging on about as well. I know he's only 18/19 or whatever (a couple of years older than Brainthwaite was when he made a debut) but if he can't game ahead of those two numpties, he's got no chance.

It's funny really, I watched their wonderkids play our under 23's. They had all on shown, Clarkson, Koumetio, Sepp (who they wasted 4 million on). They were fine, and deserved the draw they got. Nothing more than that though. They are about half way up the reserves league. I was a bit underwhelmbed to be honest.

As said a few weeks ago: they got a reputation by beating Everton in the FA Cup (not that it was all youth team players), but their hiding in the game against Villa in the LC was more the measure of them.

 

[catcherintherye]

As said a few weeks ago: they got a reputation by beating Everton in the FA Cup (not that it was all youth team players), but their hiding in the game against Villa in the LC was more the measure of them.

I mean the hiding against Villa was really Villa's 2nd string, against an actually reserves team wasn't it. Whereas the cup game was more a 2nd string, with a couple of younger lads- a bit like our side against Sheffield Wednesday. Yes younger players playing, but by no stretch a 2nd team.

Aston Villa's squad lads annihilated Liverpool that not. They got to 5 and declared out of embaressment if I remember correctly?

We were shot in that cup tie too. I know it sounds harsh but it really was one of those games. Created 5 clear opportunities in the 1st half and missed them all. Then you saw the fatigue set on. I said at the time, we should have rested everyone for the city game a couple of days prior (a game we still lost) and focussed on the cup. Had we have done, it would have been a handsome win.

Ancelotti probably felt even a heavily depleted and fatigued squad would have enough to beat Liverpool's squad players. Unfortunately he was wrong. But yes, a whole narrative has been crafted around their young players that doesn't stack up at all.

 

[Toast]

 

[PaddyJames]

No problems at all and I fully understand (and agree it's a good principle to take).

@PaddyJames Sorry mate, I can't quote but he states as one of the factors was it rained a lot in pre-season which meant they had to spend longer than they'd hoped indoors as otherwise they'd get wet. It was rather sraping the barrel.

Oh and tell your cousin, there's more chance of marrying Mbappe than them signing him.

I got sidetracked, meant to come back on and say I'd found the article. Nice one anyway.

Blaming. The. Rain. I'd be surprised but it would be an act.