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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


Had the Heysel argument loads down the years. The season ticket tout in work point blank refuses to even acknowledge it happened.

They only ever come back with "you don't care about what happened, you only talk about it because you were convinced that you would win the European Cup".

They say we aren't bothered about the victims, us being on our high horse and the only reason we mention it is because it stopped us winning the European cup in 1986.

Only one or two have ever begrudgingly mentioned that their fans were at fault.
 
49ers said:
Apparently Troy Deeney is boss when he talks about everyone else but should shut his trap about Liverpool.
Even for the Echo this article is embarrassing.
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This is why they’re a stain on the football world. It’s not enough for them just to win a game of football, they have to win every single propaganda battle as well. It’s not enough that they can be grateful that the season will finish and they’ll get the league, they have to push for it to be at Anfield, and for fans to be allowed to do what they want, and for every single commentator to hail them as an amazing team, and any single person against football returning is silenced or brought into line. Winning just isn’t enough for them, they have to be worshipped 24/7 365 days a year otherwise they just cannot bear not being the centre of attention. Even a global pandemic couldn’t change the views of their fans that somehow their football club was still the most important thing going on in the world.
 

Saint Domingo said:
Let’s be honest Gerrard was one of the most overrated players in history. He was very very good no denying that whatsoever. But he was not the ‘best’ of his peer group in the prem of Keane Vieira Lampard Scholes, in fact there’s a stronger argument to say that he’d probably rank near the bottom of that list rather than the top. Take that to the best in Europe over the duration he played, the likes of Zidane Pirlo Xavi Iniesta is he anywhere near any of them? No.

He was a player capable of big moments absolutely and was blessed with pace, power, and a thunderbolt right foot that he swung well in some big games. He was also positionally inept which was why Rafael and Capello played him all over the place, and inconsistent in that whilst Lampard was hitting 20 a season and Scholes and Carrick were winning league after league he’d have one god like game then do nothing in the next three. Apart from one good game away in Germany (where everyone played well) he was a complete failure on the international scene where quite frankly he just wasn’t good enough and bombed us out of a few tournaments with stupid back passes.

A very good player but when the media try and make him out as one of the greatest midfielders of all time, England’s greatest player etc. it’s a load of rubbish. He’s nowhere near that level, he wasn’t even the best player in his own England teams with Rooney and Ashley Cole miles ahead of him. He got embarrassed in top games far more times than he did a superman and won them.

if De Bruyne wins the CL this season there’s be more of an argument to say he’s achieved far more than Gerrard did just he didn’t have a media machine behind him desperate for relevance in a time when Liverpool were mostly rubbish.a good player with some big moments but nowhere near the level people now make him out to have been at.
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In rs teams with the likes of Alonso, Suarez, Torres or even Sean Dundee, he wasn't even the best rs player the most of his time playing.
 
ste d' indica said:
He really isn't.
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Totally agree. One of the best players England ever produced. By all accounts, an absolute gent as well.

Used to work for a guy who was at school a few years before him. He was at a fund raising day with a teachers vs pupils game in 2001. Scholes rocked up in a renault espace, boots in a plastic bag, ran round kicking people for 20 minutes, signed every autograph and then went home.
 


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