ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[Disgruntledgoat]

and the 1:100 that connected would be creamed over on MoTD where they'd tell us how wonderful his vision and passing ability is, and as you say. those who actually watched the whole game could see him spraying passes like a tom cat in a neighbours garden

He was a master of pointing, shouting and running about like a headless chicken too.

 

[degsy]

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Needs 'The Stig' photoshopping into this.

and on that bombshell...

 

[helpimonfire]

The jury has just returned its verdict. Not even the best in England, let alone the world.

Best slipper in the world by far

 

[tommytowne]

This must never ever be forgotten.
Just like we tell our children of the legendary Dixie Dean, we should also tell them of the shame of the cult that we are unfortunate to share our beautiful city with.
Never forget this Blues.

Horrendous scenes.
The absolute state of that stadium for a start.
Words fail me for the behaviour of one set of fans.
Never, ever forget what happened. Never ever fail to remind those amongst those RS who develop amnesia whenever the name Heysel is mentioned.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Horrendous scenes.
The absolute state of that stadium for a start.
Words fail me for the behaviour of one set of fans.
Never, ever forget what happened. Never ever fail to remind those amongst those RS who develop amnesia whenever the name Heysel is mentioned.

One of the tricky red men on the Belgian docco on friday night argued that as the stones were loose, they really had no option but to pry them out and hurl them at the Italians.

 

[maccavennie]

not sure what he’s even trying to prove here. Is he claiming Heysel wasn’t Liverpool fan’s fault or it was?

Luckily he's getting loads of crap from it. The fella is an absolute helmet of the highest order. He posts something like that and his next post is "still got therty ov me buks iv wrote about der redmen YMCA. Itz Moor about der culture ov footy as well az winnin 6 times! £7.50 for doze who are interested"

He's an absolute fkin bellend

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Luckily he's getting loads of crap from it. The fella is an absolute helmet of the highest order. He posts something like that and his next post is "still got therty ov me buks iv wrote about der redmen YMCA. Itz Moor about der culture ov footy as well az winnin 6 times! £7.50 for doze who are interested"

He's an absolute fkin bellend

See, I've often thought about writing one of my book ideas and selling it directly this way. But then I read self-published sports books and they are invariably appallingly written ego-trips and the thought of well-researched and sourced work being lumped in with this sort of "What I did on my holidays" dross is too much.

 

[maccavennie]

See, I've often thought about writing one of my book ideas and selling it directly this way. But then I read self-published sports books and they are invariably appallingly written ego-trips and the thought of well-researched and sourced work being lumped in with this sort of "What I did on my holidays" dross is too much.

Nah you'll be fine mate. The only time I'd recommend anyone not to write any book of any sort is as soon as they say they're a Kopite. Ego driven, history rewriting all about me me me 6 times YMCA drivel mate.

In fact, I think you should write a book about that lot thinking they can write a book and call it Kopites are Gobshites.

 

[Tony101]

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So he’s the best even better than messi an Ronaldo but what about Pirlo. He put Gerrard to shame at the 2014 World Cup. Ran the midfield. Gerrard was good no denying it really but best in the world I don’t even think he was better than Lampard.

This is like joe Cole can do everything Messi can do again.

 

[Walham Green Blue]

not sure what he’s even trying to prove here. Is he claiming Heysel wasn’t Liverpool fan’s fault or it was?

To be fair to Evans, as much as it might grate, he has said that those claims that other fans (ie Chelsea) were involved, were a load of nonsense and that their lot should accept responsibility for Heysel. I think he’s been given a fair bit of clog on RAWK for it. I’ll go and fetch my tin hat now.

 

[tommytowne]

One of the tricky red men on the Belgian docco on friday night argued that as the stones were loose, they really had no option but to pry them out and hurl them at the Italians.

Unbelievable.
Those two reds fans. "Let's just get out there and play football"

 

[Saint Domingo]

Let’s be honest Gerrard was one of the most overrated players in history. He was very very good no denying that whatsoever. But he was not the ‘best’ of his peer group in the prem of Keane Vieira Lampard Scholes, in fact there’s a stronger argument to say that he’d probably rank near the bottom of that list rather than the top. Take that to the best in Europe over the duration he played, the likes of Zidane Pirlo Xavi Iniesta is he anywhere near any of them? No.

He was a player capable of big moments absolutely and was blessed with pace, power, and a thunderbolt right foot that he swung well in some big games. He was also positionally inept which was why Rafael and Capello played him all over the place, and inconsistent in that whilst Lampard was hitting 20 a season and Scholes and Carrick were winning league after league he’d have one god like game then do nothing in the next three. Apart from one good game away in Germany (where everyone played well) he was a complete failure on the international scene where quite frankly he just wasn’t good enough and bombed us out of a few tournaments with stupid back passes.

A very good player but when the media try and make him out as one of the greatest midfielders of all time, England’s greatest player etc. it’s a load of rubbish. He’s nowhere near that level, he wasn’t even the best player in his own England teams with Rooney and Ashley Cole miles ahead of him. He got embarrassed in top games far more times than he did a superman and won them.

if De Bruyne wins the CL this season there’s be more of an argument to say he’s achieved far more than Gerrard did just he didn’t have a media machine behind him desperate for relevance in a time when Liverpool were mostly rubbish.a good player with some big moments but nowhere near the level people now make him out to have been at.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Unbelievable.
Those two reds fans. "Let's just get out there and play football"

The Liverpool fan who tells the story in the full one (he's on at the start) is an absolute bell. He says he laughed at the police when they arrested him in connection with 39 counts of aggrevated manslaughter because all he did was run forward and punch a few people. Police, bad stadium, no ticket checks etc etc etc. I was boiling mad after 5 minutes of that show.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Let’s be honest Gerrard was one of the most overrated players in history. He was very very good no denying that whatsoever. But he was not the ‘best’ of his peer group in the prem of Keane Vieira Lampard Scholes, in fact there’s a stronger argument to say that he’d probably rank near the bottom of that list rather than the top. Take that to the best in Europe over the duration he played, the likes of Zidane Pirlo Xavi Iniesta is he anywhere near any of them? No.

He was a player capable of big moments absolutely and was blessed with pace, power, and a thunderbolt right foot that he swung well in some big games. He was also positionally inept which was why Rafael and Capello played him all over the place, and inconsistent in that whilst Lampard was hitting 20 a season and Scholes and Carrick were winning league after league he’d have one god like game then do nothing in the next three. Apart from one good game away in Germany (where everyone played well) he was a complete failure on the international scene where quite frankly he just wasn’t good enough and bombed us out of a few tournaments with stupid back passes.

A very good player but when the media try and make him out as one of the greatest midfielders of all time, England’s greatest player etc. it’s a load of rubbish. He’s nowhere near that level, he wasn’t even the best player in his own England teams with Rooney and Ashley Cole miles ahead of him. He got embarrassed in top games far more times than he did a superman and won them.

if De Bruyne wins the CL this season there’s be more of an argument to say he’s achieved far more than Gerrard did just he didn’t have a media machine behind him desperate for relevance in a time when Liverpool were mostly rubbish.a good player with some big moments but nowhere near the level people now make him out to have been at.

He was nowhere near Scholes, just for a start. How many great players talk about Scholes as a great opponent and a guy they respected? And how many talk about Gerarrd?

 

[GP_Monty]

He was nowhere near Scholes, just for a start. How many great players talk about Scholes as a great opponent and a guy they respected? And how many talk about Gerarrd?

Scholes is also wildly overrated.