ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[Moomin]

Just pointing out inconsistent decisions. I don't believe there is a conspiracy amongst all referees to help RS or other big clubs. Just think RS get favourable decisions in a lot of games. Around that time I was arguing with him, Konate had committed 2 bookable offences against Wolves and didn't get sent off. Referee had no problem sending off Ashley Young in a derby. We get a penalty against Brighton for exactly same offence as Konate committed in derby. He didn't seem to have an issue with that. Personally I do. It's perfectly acceptable for Gabriel Jesus to commit a handball against us. Goal stands. Barry commits same offence. Goal disallowed. Onana has ball blasted at him from 2 yards away vs City. Penalty. Milner thinks he's playing volleyball against us? No penalty. VVD commits exactly same offence in derby that Chelsea player got sent off for. No red card. Add to that Brentford vs RS going on until 103rd minute, when only 7 minutes were added. I just find it strange that a Blue would be on here telling people how fantastic RS were last season and how RS couldn't possibly have benefited from dodgy decisions.

You still haven't pointed out when I have defended the RS getting favourable decisions. Please find one example.

You seem to spend a lot of time watching Liverpool by the looks of it.

 

[Tommy Chong]

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[twoblue]

I've always been the same on here.


Can you please point to where I defend the RS getting a favourable decison??

All I've pointed out is how I laughed at RAWK when they couldn't accept that United under Fergie won the league as they were a decent team. They would rather believe he ran the Premier League and controlled the refs.

20 years later we have fans who are going down the rabbit hole of that Liverpool players have magic inhalers that make them into He-Man and not just content with that they also have corrupted the Refs and PGMOL to back them.

It's all a bit tin foil hat stuff.

It’s very naive to think that a multibillion industry wouldn’t be looking for every advantage…

Be that edge of performance enhancing doping
Pushing the media narrative- Making sure at least one Liverpool alumnus chipping in from the sidelines on every football show - Whether it’s Carra or Crouchy or Didi or Danny or Jamie or Robbie or Souey or Macca or Coley or Stephen Warnock (to quote glendelling) driving a pro-Liverpool agenda “best fans, best centre back, best forward in premier league history, best midfielder in premier league, etc etc”

Or getting decisions from referee and var… most fans agree that the big red clubs get the big decisions… then defended from media.

Now there is A bit of tinfoil hats stuff. But believing football is some Corinthian sport is the least believable aspect now.
Liverpool has become an institution and it protects its own.

 

[canuckblue]

Witches are easy to find as they tend to weigh the same as a duck, kopites can be harder to flush out

Much like some turds.

 

[Moomin]

It’s very naive to think that a multibillion industry wouldn’t be looking for every advantage…

Be that edge of performance enhancing doping
Pushing the media narrative- Making sure at least one Liverpool alumnus chipping in from the sidelines on every football show - Whether it’s Carra or Crouchy or Didi or Danny or Jamie or Robbie or Souey or Macca or Coley or Stephen Warnock (to quote glendelling) driving a pro-Liverpool agenda “best fans, best centre back, best forward in premier league history, best midfielder in premier league, etc etc”

Or getting decisions from referee and var… most fans agree that the big red clubs get the big decisions… then defended from media.

Now there is A bit of tinfoil hats stuff. But believing football is some Corinthian sport is the least believable aspect now.
Liverpool has become an institution and it protects its own.

Football has long been a corinthian sport. It's just a vehicle of greed and sport washing now.

And we are one of the founder clubs that started this greed when we and other 4 clubs of Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs had meetings to break away from the Football league to create the Premier League.

For greed.

 

[twoblue]

Football has long been a corinthian sport. It's just a vehicle of greed and sport washing now.

And we are one of the founder clubs that started this greed when we and other 4 clubs of Man United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs had meetings to break away from the Football league to create the Premier League.

For greed.

Big fish eating little fish.
It’s the way of the world.

But dealing with here and now…

 

[JelavicBrate2]

You still haven't pointed out when I have defended the RS getting favourable decisions. Please find one example.

You seem to spend a lot of time watching Liverpool by the looks of it.

From what I remember and I'll have a look back to make sure. You were claiming that RS are a "decent side" and their success had nothing to do with dodgy decisions in their favour or other teams being crap. Doping issue is something neither me or you can prove either way so I'll leave it where it is. I seem to remember you laughing off countless dodgy decisions that had been given in their favour. Penalty at Bournemouth where there was no contact, Konate not being sent off against Wolves and not conceding penalty against us. There's a difference between believing that there's a conspiracy against Everton or to give RS decisions in every game. Which I don't believe in. And, believing in that RS have huge amounts of armchair fans, most of the money that comes into Premier League comes from TV money. There is an obvious incentive to ensure RS do well at certain times, because their armchair supporters disappear when they're doing poorly. Do you honestly believe that Clattenburgs mistakes in 2007 derby were honest mistakes? If you don't believe there is corruption in Premier League that favours RS? If you don't think that allowing Gary Neville and Carragher to continually commentate on games, which ensures that any decision given against RS will be talked about for weeks. That's not including Dagelishs daughter, Rednapp, Souness, Hansen, Jim Beglin, Gerrard, McManamen, Warnock, Sturridge, Lawrenson and Phil Thompson. As Villas Boas and Mouriniho pointed out, media pundits create a narrative that undoubtedly affect refs performances. VAR has made it worse, because corrupt refs can blame VAR and vice versa.

 

[canuckblue]

Well, we know that fanbase is capable of killing people, so maybe the refs are in actual fear of harm and make their calls or non-calls accordingly. They're obviously afraid of upsetting them.

 

[PITA]

Well, we know that fanbase is capable of killing people, so maybe the refs are in actual fear of harm and make their calls or non-calls accordingly. They're obviously afraid of upsetting them.

I think that you mean Chelsea fans.

 

[canuckblue]

I think that you mean Chelsea fans.

Of course. How could I have made that mistake? Bullets in the post for me, I guess.

 

[Moomin]

From what I remember and I'll have a look back to make sure. You were claiming that RS are a "decent side" and their success had nothing to do with dodgy decisions in their favour or other teams being crap. Doping issue is something neither me or you can prove either way so I'll leave it where it is. I seem to remember you laughing off countless dodgy decisions that had been given in their favour. Penalty at Bournemouth where there was no contact, Konate not being sent off against Wolves and not conceding penalty against us. There's a difference between believing that there's a conspiracy against Everton or to give RS decisions in every game. Which I don't believe in. And, believing in that RS have huge amounts of armchair fans, most of the money that comes into Premier League comes from TV money. There is an obvious incentive to ensure RS do well at certain times, because their armchair supporters disappear when they're doing poorly. Do you honestly believe that Clattenburgs mistakes in 2007 derby were honest mistakes? If you don't believe there is corruption in Premier League that favours RS? If you don't think that allowing Gary Neville and Carragher to continually commentate on games, which ensures that any decision given against RS will be talked about for weeks. That's not including Dagelishs daughter, Rednapp, Souness, Hansen, Jim Beglin, Gerrard, McManamen, Warnock, Sturridge, Lawrenson and Phil Thompson. As Villas Boas and Mouriniho pointed out, media pundits create a narrative that undoubtedly affect refs performances. VAR has made it worse, because corrupt refs can blame VAR and vice versa.

You still haven't pointed out when I have defended the RS getting favourable decisions. Please find one example.

Above you mention a penalty at Bournemouth and I laughed it off, please find this example.

You don't half contradict yourself in your wall of words.

As for Clattenburg, he is a massive cock and I dealt with him before he left the Electrical Contracting business to be a full time Ref. He was just crap and full of his own self importance.

 

[canuckblue]

As for Clattenburg, he is a massive cock and I dealt with him before he left the Electrical Contracting business to be a full time Ref. He was just crap and full of his own self importance.

So was he AC/DC?

 

[Kurt.]

So was he AC/DC?

They paid him in residual currency

 

[Duncan’s Pigeon Loft]

You still haven't pointed out when I have defended the RS getting favourable decisions. Please find one example.

Above you mention a penalty at Bournemouth and I laughed it off, please find this example.

You don't half contradict yourself in your wall of words.

As for Clattenburg, he is a massive cock and I dealt with him before he left the Electrical Contracting business to be a full time Ref. He was just crap and full of his own self importance.

You dealt with him?

 

[the golden visionary]

You dealt with him?

Locked him off, and tested to see he was dead