Honestly don't give a crap about these anymore. It used to hurt to see them do well, but through a combination of Everton's woes and my increasing awareness of how horrible they really are, i've come to the conclusion that I just don't care. I used to think the worst I could say about them was that most of them were plastic divvies, and I'd always given them the benefit of the doubt over Heysel, bearing in mind that hooliganism was rife. The more you read though, the more it becomes apparent just how horrible these are. Those fans that died at Heysel didn't just get squashed against a wall, they were running for their lives. Every other avenue of escape was attempted and in the end they had nowhere left to run...
After initial fighting, Juventus fans in the neutral section began to run away from the Liverpool fans who had become involved, initially towards the pitch (where Belgian police would not allow them to go) and the exit (where they were not permitted to leave), and then in the direction of the decrepit wall.
Even forgetting Heysel (pardon the expression) there's enough evidence over things that paints them in a truly horrible light, this trilogy of threads on here is a goldmine. If I had the time and inclination, I'd make a documentary about them, simply call it 'Shameless', and then purposefully airbrush Heysel.
The final straw for me was when they actually held a parade on the actual anniversary of Heysel.