ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

arch stanton said:
I think they're only a couple of dressing room bust ups before they implode. Everyone is bezzy mates when winning, when stuff starts going wrong it can get fractious. We saw a bit of it tonight with Billy Big Bollox van Dyke and Milner. Milner is/was a great pro, Knee-boy van Dyke is believing his own hype. This could get interesting.
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I think teams are starting to fear them less.

The media hype train, whether you want to believe it or not, clearly impacts opposition. They go into Liverpool terrified, yet all of a sudden teams are running at TAA and Van Dijk and they can’t cope.

They’ll get stronger, but clearly this is more than just a chink in the armour.
 
Wayno said:
Seemed to be some unrest in the squad tonight.

Them players won’t be blaming themselves for losing the CL & PL, it’s simply unnatural for a bunch of millionaire sports stars to look inwardly at such a catastrophic failure at the peak of the season.

Even the United players held a grudge against SAF for the Barcelona finals.

Discontent is inevitable and we’ve seen the first signs of it getting out of hand there
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Who at United held a grudge? I know Berbatov did as he was their top scorer and didn't get in the squad.
 
What you seeing now is what me and others on here have pointed our for ages, the RS are average side, with a world class players, who are in decline. VAR, doping, luck and other teams playing into their hands have made this incredibly average RS seem decent. When teams don't actually got out if their way to let them win and sit back and counter them on the break they get results. They won 2 cups v Chelsea who couldn't beat our reserve side at home, our first team are crap never mind the reserves. They've benefited from managers stupidly adopting the same tactics, Moyes did well because, he used Cahill to break the mould of 4 4 2. Playing to their strengths by playing a high line, telling your right back and left back to bomb forward, which plays into their hands is idiotic. Mouriniho, Allardyce, Conte and Tuchel know how to play against Klopp. It's why Arsenal always get hammered by them, because they insist on playing a high line. They heavily relied on Manes pace as they have no midfield, also you can't underestimate the power of doping. It's unheard of for 3 forwards to all become world class overnight, despite originally not being wanted by other clubs. TAA wasn't talked about really, yet managed to become great overnight. Robertson came good overnight, yet both now look awful and are useless when playing for their countries. While I hate Gerrard his success made sense, when Owen left he was pushed forward and scored more goals, Alonso also helped him out as did Mascherano, same Lampard, when he had Makelele, Essien, Mikel and Ballack behind him. Gerrard and Liverpool struggled after Alonso left, because Gerrard couldn't go forward as much. It was Hendos useleness that caused them to lose the league, Gerrards slip was due to him coming deep to receive the ball as Henderson has no skill. Milner is the most suspicious, offloaded by a useless Man City side, looked awful when he went there, he wasn't even that great in his prime, yet has somehow while playing far more intensely and in a lot more games become fantastic. His success goes against the laws of nature, Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Henry, Bergkamp couldn't keep up as they got older, I don't know of he has. The great Arsenal sides of the past destroyed you will skill, non of their players compare to Viera, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, Llunberg, Cole, Fabregas or Van Persie.
 

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