ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[Yarrgh]

Just as an aside I was in Naples last week and was drinking a beer at a bar. The waiter asked me where I was from to which I responded Liverpool. The waiter responded with one word “Hooligans” and walked away

I did my final year at uni (many years ago) in Rome and the only thing that Lazio and Roma fans agreed on was a hatred for the rs after rampaging through Rome.

 

[stony]

To be fair, I haven't.

The point being that with such serious allegations as this many employers, especially those in the public eye, would suspend on at least full pay.

City knowingly waited for the third allegation, after he'd been questioned, before acting. Not mentioning specific names, but have other clubs done the same?

There is a difference between innocent until proven guilty and taking fair and legally acceptable precautions until proceedings have been completed.

If you'd been arrested for a serious offence, would your employer have you in work until the proceedings were completed? I think not.

Do you know the exact nature of the first charges and all the details? Because I don't, and the only people who really do are Mendy and the girls involved. They did suspend him when more allegations came out. Which I suspect tipped the balance of probability that me was indeed guilty. But we still don't know for sure the inns and outs.

Are you suggesting that in future, every single footballer should be suspended in the face of serious and unproven allegations? I'm honestly interested to know what you think they should or could have done and what you think every other club should do in a similar situation?

 

[Cool_Blue]

I did my final year at uni (many years ago) in Rome and the only thing that Lazio and Roma fans agreed on was a hatred for the rs after rampaging through Rome.

They’re mistaken......it was Chelsea

 

[PhilM]

Do you know the exact nature of the first charges and all the details? Because I don't, and the only people who really do are Mendy and the girls involved. They did suspend him when more allegations came out. Which I suspect tipped the balance of probability that me was indeed guilty. But we still don't know for sure the inns and outs.

Are you suggesting that in future, every single footballer should be suspended in the face of serious and unproven allegations? I'm honestly interested to know what you think they should or could have done and what you think every other club should do in a similar situation?

No, I'm saying if there are serious allegations that have met a set criteria/threshold in terms of seriousness then appropriate actions should occur.

For example, if two serious allegations had been made, including police involvement to the point of being interviewed, then the club may perhaps to choose to...

...not play that individual. They may wait until a decision to charge has been made, for example. I wouldn't expect them to play them until a third is made.

There is a player, who plays for a club, who is currently suspended by said club because of serious allegations that have yet to be reviewed in court.

Would you like 'that' player representing 'that' club at the moment? I'm not saying for every allegation, but with certain level of police involvement I would.

It's not uncommon for people to be suspended from their role prior investigation, so why should footballers be any different?

 

[royalblue66]

I did my final year at uni (many years ago) in Rome and the only thing that Lazio and Roma fans agreed on was a hatred for the rs after rampaging through Rome.

Untouchables, think they can do has they like,Fact.

 

[stony]

No, I'm saying if there are serious allegations that have met a set criteria/threshold in terms of seriousness then appropriate actions should occur.

For example, if two serious allegations had been made, including police involvement to the point of being interviewed, then the club may perhaps to choose to...

...not play that individual. They may wait until a decision to charge has been made, for example. I wouldn't expect them to play them until a third is made.

There is a player, who plays for a club, who is currently suspended by said club because of serious allegations that have yet to be reviewed in court.

Would you like 'that' player representing 'that' club at the moment? I'm not saying for every allegation, but with certain level of police involvement I would.

It's not uncommon for people to be suspended from their role prior investigation, so why should footballers be any different?

Again, without knowing the details you can't make a judgement. The club may have believed his version of events until more emerged.

 

[boris]

To be fair, I haven't.

The point being that with such serious allegations as this many employers, especially those in the public eye, would suspend on at least full pay.

City knowingly waited for the third allegation, after he'd been questioned, before acting. Not mentioning specific names, but have other clubs done the same?

There is a difference between innocent until proven guilty and taking fair and legally acceptable precautions until proceedings have been completed.

If you'd been arrested for a serious offence, would your employer have you in work until the proceedings were completed? I think not.

I think Bissouma who played against us yesterday is in the exact same boat as Mendy and our unnamed player however Brighton are still choosing to pick him.

 

[blueconverse]

They are turning on captain of captains

 

[PITA]

Egypt are second favourites for the afcon,let's hope they go the distance and keep Salah out there for the duration, he is the main one who could drag them back in the title race, City are bound to have a mini blip soon after 11 wins on the spin and RS would only be 5pts behind if they win their game in hand.Remember Newcastle blew a 15 pt lead in 95/96 due to complacency.

City are 11 points ahead of the RS. If the RS win their game in hand they will be 8 points behind.

 

[mahermi1]

Is it worse than a yellow? Yeah? Red card then innit... 'kin divvy. Orange lol

It just makes you cringe every time you hear an ex Liverpool player commentating on liverpool, they simply can't help themselves, Carragher should be banned from live tv commentating on liverpool. Can't stand misery guts Souness but at least he's honest and thankfully fully disagreed with Carraghers "Orange appeal".

 

[daza_1973]

City are 11 points ahead of the RS. If the RS win their game in hand they will be 8 points behind.

!7 games left - Can't really see City losing 3 and the RS winning every game.

 

[mahermi1]

Just seen it, red all day long.

Yes Carragher is. And that's his problem that was as you say a straight red, you can see now why Liverpool have had only one sending off in two years.

 

[NathDogg]

The vermin defending manes red card challenge, just like spitty did - absolute disgraceful set of supporters, who are as clueless as they are biased.

It was the most blatant elbow I've seen for a long time - there is no defence for it, he should have been sent off.

I'd have a modicum of respect for the gobshites, if they owned it and admitted it was a red card offence, but the hysel airbrush gets whirled out again - people I consider "normal, decent" reds spouting absolute wham defending mane - koff you bellends.

 

[rochdaleblue]

RAWK are convinced that all the refs and most of the media have been bought and paid for by Sheik Mansour. Because Liverpool never get any decisions or help.

After the silva penalty I went on RAWK to see there viewpoint. This was one of the views expressed:
‘The issue is that refs have a negative bias against us. We can barely tackle while our opponents wrestle Salah without a freekick being awarded.’
Deluded is the only word that comes to mind.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Yes Carragher is. And that's his problem that was as you say a straight red, you can see now why Liverpool have had only one sending off in two years.

Apparently an "orange" according to Spitty,wake me up the day this clown actually calls them out on one of their many misdemeanours.