ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[catcherintherye]

I know the Last Night of the Proms, which represents the Tory-Fascist nexus, have adopted YNWA as their song to express unity of Das Britische Volk.

Is that before or after Land of Hope of hope and glory?

 

[toffee82]

Massive anti-semite racist, peado obsessive and general nutjob, leads gang of cowardly fascistic sh1tbags on sing song of YNWA. It all fits together so perfectly doesnt it.

Enough about Klopp when the season starts.
I want to hear more about David Icke.

 

[PaddyJames]

I dont think I said they were bigger. Historically Liverpool are bigger than all 3, but over the last 20 years or whatever those 3 have all had a lot more success than Liverpool.

You did. Do you even know what you type?

Yeah course they have but that's not the point. Are Wigan bigger than Everton?

 

[PaddyJames]

So it's all just a big coincidence that black footballers are targeted on social media then? You have learnt literally nothing of the past few months about their experiences, and why they are taking the knee, have you?

Given you seem completely oblivious to racism and you seem to think Wijnaldum could have deserved the abuse, I'm going to guess you support a racist club, so are a Kopite?

And yes it would be stupid to abuse your own legendary players. But racists tend to be quite stupid, illogical and hateful people. This is especially so for Kopites, who seem to have a pathological hatred for black players (see Evra, Holgate etc).

Lad you need a blow job off DaveK or something. You seriously have no idea about this city, it's people and either of its clubs.

 

[PaddyJames]

I can see the potency of the front 3 tailing off, and the likes of Jota are the next level or two down from them.

They need to sell at least one of the front three and spend big on his replacement...AT LEAST.

Jota is crap, I sincerely hope they are planning to rely on him next season. He was awful in the euros. A few jammy goals and he was the bargain of the century. Whippet

 

[catcherintherye]

You did. Do you even know what you type?

Yeah course they have but that's not the point. Are Wigan bigger than Everton?

Well Wigan are in division 3 so obviously not.

Did I say Arsenal and Chelsea are bigger than Liverpool? Or did I say, looking forward I would anticipate them to have similar levels of success as Liverpool moving forward (in Arsenals case) or more (in Chelsea's case).

Everton are bigger than Spurs, City and Chelsea, but I can also acknowledge that those 3 are much better set to win trophies moving forward. There is an important difference in the two things, and it might be best if you focus on what I actually write, as opposed to what you think I've written. I am precise with what I will say to avoid needless generalisations that you are making.

 

[PaddyJames]

Well Wigan are in division 3 so obviously not.

Did I say Arsenal and Chelsea are bigger than Liverpool? Or did I say, looking forward I would anticipate them to have similar levels of success as Liverpool moving forward (in Arsenals case) or more (in Chelsea's case).

Everton are bigger than Spurs, City and Chelsea, but I can also acknowledge that those 3 are much better set to win trophies moving forward. There is an important difference in the two things, and it might be best if you focus on what I actually write, as opposed to what you think I've written. I am precise with what I will say to avoid needless generalisations that you are making.

"That's their level now. They are not a City, a Chelsea a United in size. They're not even an Arsenal in all honesty who won 3 leagues in a short space of time."

Sorry mate I hate to break it to you but you're a chancer. I prefer Daves absolute hatred to your lies and rhetoric. Living here we've had to drink the reality dose for years. You haven't got the slightest clue.

 

[catcherintherye]

Lad you need a blow job off DaveK or something. You seriously have no idea about this city, it's people and either of its clubs.

Hold on, you are getting upset because I'm challenging a Liverpool fan for justifying the abuse of a black footballer, and suggesting he could have deserved such abuse?

How is that the basis for not understanding the city too? Are people from the city not bothered about the abuse of black footballers? That's not the experience I have, with pretty much the entirety of my family on both sides living in the city.

As for the receiving @davek a blowjob I dont even know where to start with this. It seems like a ridiculous statement in what is a ridiculous post really. Would it be a problem if I recieved oral sex off a bloke?

You seem to get irrationally angry with me. The other day you got wound up because hundreds of Kopites were crying on James Pearce social media feed. Maybe you would be happier just putting me on ignore?

 

[PaddyJames]

Hold on, you are getting upset because I'm challenging a Liverpool fan for justifying the abuse of a black footballer, and suggesting he could have deserved such abuse?

How is that the basis for not understanding the city too? Are people from the city not bothered about the abuse of black footballers? That's not the experience I have, with pretty much the entirety of my family on both sides living in the city.

As for the receiving @davek a blowjob I dont even know where to start with this. It seems like a ridiculous statement in what is a ridiculous post really. Would it be a problem if I recieved oral sex off a bloke?

You seem to get irrationally angry with me. The other day you got wound up because hundreds of Kopites were crying on James Pearce social media feed. Maybe you would be happier just putting me on ignore?

No, you're labelling a club racist. We've had as many racist incidents, am I a racist because I support a team that had a fan who threw a banana at a black player?

It was about time someone picked you up on your lies. I'm not upset at you, I'm just sick of you making a show of us. Putting you on ignore would suit you wouldn't it. You just don't like being picked up on it. Oh and as for the nosh thing, you'll have to join the queue.

Don't take this as me disliking you, I actually enjoy a lot of your posts and learn a bit from them but sometimes you just chat brown and it ruins an otherwise spot on post.

 

[catcherintherye]

"That's their level now. They are not a City, a Chelsea a United in size. They're not even an Arsenal in all honesty who won 3 leagues in a short space of time."

Sorry mate I hate to break it to you but you're a chancer. I prefer Daves absolute hatred to your lies and rhetoric. Living here we've had to drink the reality dose for years. You haven't got the slightest clue.

Well the wider context of that is the last 30 years, and using that as a rational for moving forward. Over the last 30 years they are not as big as City, United or Chelsea.

City and Chelsea are going to dominate English football over the next 10+ years, and United ultimately had their dominant run at a more commercially profitable era than Liverpool, and are bigger than Liverpool as a result.

The Arsenal comment is a bit closer. Arsenal have won multiple leagues over my lifetime watching football. I'd say they are similar in scope (as I have subsequently mentioned).

You seem to want to be perennially angry at this. Again I'm not sure why. You have a different view which is fair enough, but nothing I've said is untrue.

 

[PaddyJames]

Well the wider context of that is the last 30 years, and using that as a rational for moving forward. Over the last 30 years they are not as big as City, United or Chelsea.

City and Chelsea are going to dominate English football over the next 10+ years, and United ultimately had their dominant run at a more commercially profitable era than Liverpool, and are bigger than Liverpool as a result.

The Arsenal comment is a bit closer. Arsenal have won multiple leagues over my lifetime watching football. I'd say they are similar in scope (as I have subsequently mentioned).

You seem to want to be perennially angry at this. Again I'm not sure why. You have a different view which is fair enough, but nothing I've said is untrue.

I'm not angry at all. I'm just methodically destroying your fantasy world. A lot of what you've said and say is untrue. You have just said you didn't say they were bigger, I've just quoted your own words and you're still trying to wriggle out of it. Just admit, you play to the audience and make stuff up. You don't really understand football, particularly us and them lot. Nice try though. Please keep telling us how to run the club.

Oh and "well the wider context" to start a reply is pure tory.

 

[catcherintherye]

No, you're labelling a club racist. We've had as many racist incidents, am I a racist because I support a team that had a fan who threw a banana at a black player?

It was about time someone picked you up on your lies. I'm not upset at you, I'm just sick of you making a show of us. Putting you on ignore would suit you wouldn't it. You just don't like being picked up on it. Oh and as for the nosh thing, you'll have to join the queue.

Don't take this as me disliking you, I actually enjoy a lot of your posts and learn a bit from them but sometimes you just chat brown and it ruins an otherwise spot on post.

Well when you can show me a lie I'll take that, but there isn't a lie. There is just a difference of view.

Re racist club, there have been lots of racism at lots of clubs, however very few mis handle a prominent racism accusation, over a long period as they have done. That is what makes it systemic. Months after the incident their manager was still lying about the player, saying he refused to shake hands, on TV, in front of millions of people. They rewarded that person with a stand names after him after that as well. Years later, they still abused that black player, accused him of being a "lying b******". This wasnt one or 2 rotten apples either, it was large sections of the fanbase. It takes every box of structural racism. If Everton behaved like that, then yes Everton could be described as suffering from structural racism.

I have no issue with being picked up on anything, and am quite open to discussion. I chat with most reds on here very civilly (and they all say as much). You're not picking me up though, you are twisting things to make a point. Like the other day, when you claimed Liverpool fans were not crying at the lack of spend, when there were literally hundreds of them whining all over social media on 1 single post from a tweet. Even some fellow reds were saying they were embarrassing. Yet you tried to make out that was a lie as well. So again, if you want to debate issues fine, but I'd really appreciate if we could debate the reality of what has been said.

I appreciate you like the posts. If you think theres some rubbish being spoken you're entitled to your view, and more often than not you will be correct. You just seemed to be getting a bit irate about it so just didnt think it was worth you getting needlessly upset, that's all.

 

[PaddyJames]

Well when you can show me a lie I'll take that, but there isn't a lie. There is just a difference of view.

Re racist club, there have been lots of racism at lots of clubs, however very few mis handle a prominent racism accusation, over a long period as they have done. That is what makes it systemic. Months after the incident their manager was still lying about the player, saying he refused to shake hands, on TV, in front of millions of people. They rewarded that person with a stand names after him after that as well. Years later, they still abused that black player, accused him of being a "lying b******". This wasnt one or 2 rotten apples either, it was large sections of the fanbase. It takes every box of structural racism. If Everton behaved like that, then yes Everton could be described as suffering from structural racism.

I have no issue with being picked up on anything, and am quite open to discussion. I chat with most reds on here very civilly (and they all say as much). You're not picking me up though, you are twisting things to make a point. Like the other day, when you claimed Liverpool fans were not crying at the lack of spend, when there were literally hundreds of them whining all over social media on 1 single post from a tweet. Even some fellow reds were saying they were embarrassing. Yet you tried to make out that was a lie as well. So again, if you want to debate issues fine, but I'd really appreciate if we could debate the reality of what has been said.

I appreciate you like the posts. If you think theres some rubbish being spoken you're entitled to your view, and more often than not you will be correct. You just seemed to be getting a bit irate about it so just didnt think it was worth you getting needlessly upset, that's all.

I'm not upset so stop the subliminal attempts. You've lied in this post. See if you can spot it. Also fabricated something. It is clearly your persona and I doubt you'll change.

I post a lot of rubbish myself but at least I'm honest.

As for the racism side, lad pack it in.

 

[catcherintherye]

I'm not angry at all. I'm just methodically destroying your fantasy world. A lot of what you've said and say is untrue. You have just said you didn't say they were bigger, I've just quoted your own words and you're still trying to wriggle out of it. Just admit, you play to the audience and make stuff up. You don't really understand football, particularly us and them lot. Nice try though. Please keep telling us how to run the club.

Oh and "well the wider context" to start a reply is pure tory.

But at no point in the post you have quoted do I say "City, United and Arsenal are over the history of football bigger than Liverpool" do I? I state that as of today, looking forward, their prospects are below those clubs. When asked specifically on the historical bigger size, I have states they are bigger than all those clubs except for United. But you seem intent on distorting what I've said to fit some agenda.

And as for explaining context, why is that Tory now? You'll have to run your logic by me on that one...

 

[PaddyJames]

But at no point in the post you have quoted do I say "City, United and Arsenal are over the history of football bigger than Liverpool" do I? I state that as of today, looking forward, their prospects are below those clubs. When asked specifically on the historical bigger size, I have states they are bigger than all those clubs except for United. But you seem intent on distorting what I've said to fit some agenda.

And as for explaining context, why is that Tory now? You'll have to run your logic by me on that one...

Nice try. You said they were bigger. It's fine if you say "well I meant in this context" no harm in that. Instead you tried to deny it now you're trying to twist it. Lad I don't give a flying hoot about them but just making stuff up proves you haven't a single clue what life growing up and living in this city is like for an Everton supporter. Tear them apart daily and please keep doing it but stop making things up. I'm asking you as a fellow supporter. You've become a punchline.