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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3



PaulPowersTash said:
If you went to the pub for a quiet couple of pints and he arrived on the table next to you I honestly think you would just have to take him out. What an annoying little prat he is. Insufferable just like the rest of them.
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most of them are when you get onto talking football, they turn from normal people into full on cultists, spouting the mantra of the day.
 
Lord Buckethead said:
It will be Plan B with Slippy.
He's young and desperate enough to take the job on without the assurance of too much money for a rebuild.
The fans won't turn on him for a couple of years or so while there is a proud chest-beating bringing through of mediocre kids from their academy who will "need time to settle" and "make mistakes as it's all past of the learning experience"
The older players will be moved out of the door to reduce the wage bill and will be written off by the fans as either "traitorous" or "made to look good by the rest of the team".
2-3 years without Europe and the fans will call for his head and they will get a proper manager in as the player churn will have been completed and it's time to spend/rebuild properly.
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Looks that way. The only cavaet is, at Rangers he has one of the oldest squads in the league. He's basically outspent his rivals, got more experienced players in and won a trophy at the 9th time of asking. That will not be the approach for FSG. It's about as far away from their approach as you can get.

The Gerrard thing is absolutely beset with problems for me. A lot of the time I'm in favour of people coming back to their clubs, I wouldn't rule out Rooney here in 10 years or whatever, but it just feels a bad fit to me.
 
argietoffee said:
Top class post and something I have been calling for a while.

German brother in law is a big Dortmund fan and loves Klopp BUT always said, if Klopp was kept, he would have relegated them. He has a period of max efficency and after burning out the players leaves a scorched earth behind him.

This is going to get better and better.
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Thanks mate. Sometimes it's mistaken as criticism of Klopp which it isn't meant to be. But there is a boom and bust cycle. He has a similar cycle to Mourinho, but each segment takes probably twice as long.

You're right about Dortmund too. I went travelling through Germany just over a decade ago, spending a bit of time there and I was always very drawn to Dortmund and Klopp. You were very taken in and followed their results, and knew people who supported them, and they all said the same things. The crash was awful, they needed a prolonged winter break to stem the bleeding and it was just not an option for him to stay another season.

As a club they kept Houllier, and to a degree Benitez a season too long. From their perspective, Klopp should be moved on now, and a ruthless club would do that.
 

Wat Tyler said:
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If this is what they've done, not only is it completely out of order, to try and further politicise an issue tha has led to a woman and her young child having to live in fear of their lives, but it is enormously counter productive.

I remember as a teenager I broke my foot playing for a team. As you can probably imagine, I was quite the gobby little you know what even back then, and used to organise whole team in almost a sweeper position. They lost the 1st game I was away 14-0 and I remember the manager politely saying to my parents I shouldn't come back and watch until I could play again. It was a distraction, and they needed to learn to find solutions without me being there, which over the time they did to be fair.

I think the near constant harking back to Van Dijk hasn't helped them in the least. At best it's likely to cause resentment from existing players and at worst it will cause them to feel enormous pressure that it's constantly being reminded to them they are not as good as Van Dijk. Plopping him in the stands won't help either. A bit like when Alex Ferguson was there under Moyes, it's just not helpful.

It will not go down well in a dressing room. Forget all this team spirit nonsense, there was a young Liverpool defender who said he deliberately tried to injure another player to get a game for the team, and this qas semi encouraged in their reserves or whatever. There was no sanction on him. Phillips will be delighted Van Dijk got injured, as it gives him exposure. It's a dog eat dog world. The referring back to him will not be helping, and if we are honest, it has caused their season to become derailed.
 
Tipp blue said:
LOL they all probably had tee shirts under their jerseys with some kind of solidarity message.. would have been a class act..or so we'd have been told by RS fans and media.
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Just thinking about how he played all his stars against Villa youth in the FA Cup, and I actually think he probably said to them “they scored 7 against us, so we want 7 against them,” he seems that type of petty character. It made no sense for him to flog his best players in that game
 

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