Ohhh that's what it is, it's because the banners are red so they can't see the players
Red is worse than blue
Won't argue with you on that one Frankie
ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3
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Red is worse than blue
Won't argue with you on that one Frankie
SpongeBob brown shoes
Player Valuation: £40m
Got to laugh where he says this season is fake, yet under the same circumstances as this season, last season them winning the league was the best ever title win by any team who has won the league because of those circumstances.
I like the way they moan about not having a pre season so players are getting injuries, completely oblivious that the league was crammed in so they could win their covid title at the expense of this season
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
From RAWK! lollollollol
I’m old but there is no experience to fall back on with regards to a season behind closed doors or 5 ‘home’ defeats on the bounce or fill in blanks for the madness of this season.
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
The statisticians are having a field day but its largely irrelevant because this is a one off season with one off results. Its hard to keep that in perspective but it makes the unbearable a bit more bearable if you do.
If you wanted to derail us its fair to say you’d:
1.Take away home advantage by removing the 12th man.
This is a bit more than just the roar of a crowd. This is an institution that has prided itself on making a difference, sucking the ball into the net. Its also a club that picks players that respond to that adrenaline rush or want to be part of that community, who excel in that environment and who’s tactics and intensity need that environment to be at their best. The team have just not been able to recreate the intensity that they need to achieve the impossible standards they have set over the previous two years. Who were the most passionate and intense team in world football…
2. Make the season shorter meaning the hardest working team in the league has no recovery time.
a team based on heavy metal football on running harder and longer than other teams, on forcing the opposition to make mistakes, to use that roar or the crowd to fuel the adrenaline, unsettle teams, make them nervous, its just not possible in the current sterile environment in which football is being played. This is not the fault of the players you cannot recreate that intensity having lived through it, it’s not Sunday league with a crowd of a couple of hundred being the big day or giving your all every time you go out on the pitch, it is just not the same. It’s not even the same watching the bloody thing let alone playing in it.
3. Provide no pre-season to protect against injury and fatigue.
Take a team that has run itself into the ground for two years and tell them they have to work even harder.
Run the few players that remain fit into the ground and into a deep pit of despair as results grind away on confidence creating the ever decreasing spiral of quick sand…
4. Injure VVD. Take out the best defender in the league, not only disrupting the Liverpool defence but giving confidence to every other team in the league.
5. Spot the weak link in the team being a shortage of centre backs and then Injure every centre half in the club and anybody capable of stepping in.
6. If there are any signs of recovery or fighting spirit take out the captain and the heart beat of the team.
7. Ensure that injuries occur regularly, so the same players, play week in and week out and get mentally fatigued and unable to perform at their best.
8. Give the biggest advantage to the highest spending clubs with the largest squads and allow them to grow through the season further demoralising any opposition. I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that as Liverpool derailed, City’s season took off, I think the burden of being second best was lifted from them and they started believing in themselves, and their squad strength came through. The lack of crowds has also allowed the players in their squad who’s mentality was questionable last season to gain in confidence and perform like it’s a reserve game. The same is true for United, a bang average team that would have been crucified by their own support but without that expectation can get by.
9. Restrict any ability to rectify squad shortages by ensuring a world wide pandemic means nobody really wants to go anywhere in January.
10. take 2 years to figure out the best way to nullify Liverpool and then get every team in the league to follow that model whilst crippling the key element of the Liverpool tactic of a high defensive line and provide no chance for a break in order to train the team in a different approach during the season.
I don’t really find it difficult to understand why Liverpool’s season has imploded, I find it a lot harder to understand how Liverpool were top at Christmas.
Klopp looks to be a little lost and hurting at the moment and for many understandable reasons. I think his key mistake is trying to play real football in a season which is fake. It’s the only thing I think Guardiola has done well this season, adapting the City style and using players to suit the unreality of the current season. He has all of the advantages, money, squad size, media and he has as usual used those advantages. I still wouldn’t swap him for Klopp, he’s basically a flat track bully. Klopp turned also rans into champions both here and in Germany. He is the normal one but we are in unusual times, normal isn’t really suited to the nonsense being called football this season. It would be very apt if the richest club in the world buy the quadruple in a season that is all about football as a business and nothing to do with the football I grew up loving.
It's just one big list of excuses.
Whats happening for them is amixture of mean regression and Klopp burning his squad out (that is now too old to play that way). The constant seeking excuses as the above have done is also probably having a small inpact in further driving down performances as their players look for excuses to justify poor performances.
Until they are honest about the problems they face, they won't be able to turn it around.
NewRadical
Player Valuation: £30m
If they had a few off seasons and he returned as hyped as before I could definitely see him requesting a transfer to a CL team.
He went on strike twice at Southampton to force a move.
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £25m
From RAWK! lollollollol
I’m old but there is no experience to fall back on with regards to a season behind closed doors or 5 ‘home’ defeats on the bounce or fill in blanks for the madness of this season.
This isn’t football as anybody knows it, or wants it to be, it’s all about money and business and entertainment and marketing and something to fill in time, the opiate of the masses indeed, but it’s not football.
The statisticians are having a field day but its largely irrelevant because this is a one off season with one off results. Its hard to keep that in perspective but it makes the unbearable a bit more bearable if you do.
If you wanted to derail us its fair to say you’d:
1.Take away home advantage by removing the 12th man.
This is a bit more than just the roar of a crowd. This is an institution that has prided itself on making a difference, sucking the ball into the net. Its also a club that picks players that respond to that adrenaline rush or want to be part of that community, who excel in that environment and who’s tactics and intensity need that environment to be at their best. The team have just not been able to recreate the intensity that they need to achieve the impossible standards they have set over the previous two years. Who were the most passionate and intense team in world football…
2. Make the season shorter meaning the hardest working team in the league has no recovery time.
a team based on heavy metal football on running harder and longer than other teams, on forcing the opposition to make mistakes, to use that roar or the crowd to fuel the adrenaline, unsettle teams, make them nervous, its just not possible in the current sterile environment in which football is being played. This is not the fault of the players you cannot recreate that intensity having lived through it, it’s not Sunday league with a crowd of a couple of hundred being the big day or giving your all every time you go out on the pitch, it is just not the same. It’s not even the same watching the bloody thing let alone playing in it.
3. Provide no pre-season to protect against injury and fatigue.
Take a team that has run itself into the ground for two years and tell them they have to work even harder.
Run the few players that remain fit into the ground and into a deep pit of despair as results grind away on confidence creating the ever decreasing spiral of quick sand…
4. Injure VVD. Take out the best defender in the league, not only disrupting the Liverpool defence but giving confidence to every other team in the league.
5. Spot the weak link in the team being a shortage of centre backs and then Injure every centre half in the club and anybody capable of stepping in.
6. If there are any signs of recovery or fighting spirit take out the captain and the heart beat of the team.
7. Ensure that injuries occur regularly, so the same players, play week in and week out and get mentally fatigued and unable to perform at their best.
8. Give the biggest advantage to the highest spending clubs with the largest squads and allow them to grow through the season further demoralising any opposition. I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that as Liverpool derailed, City’s season took off, I think the burden of being second best was lifted from them and they started believing in themselves, and their squad strength came through. The lack of crowds has also allowed the players in their squad who’s mentality was questionable last season to gain in confidence and perform like it’s a reserve game. The same is true for United, a bang average team that would have been crucified by their own support but without that expectation can get by.
9. Restrict any ability to rectify squad shortages by ensuring a world wide pandemic means nobody really wants to go anywhere in January.
10. take 2 years to figure out the best way to nullify Liverpool and then get every team in the league to follow that model whilst crippling the key element of the Liverpool tactic of a high defensive line and provide no chance for a break in order to train the team in a different approach during the season.
I don’t really find it difficult to understand why Liverpool’s season has imploded, I find it a lot harder to understand how Liverpool were top at Christmas.
Klopp looks to be a little lost and hurting at the moment and for many understandable reasons. I think his key mistake is trying to play real football in a season which is fake. It’s the only thing I think Guardiola has done well this season, adapting the City style and using players to suit the unreality of the current season. He has all of the advantages, money, squad size, media and he has as usual used those advantages. I still wouldn’t swap him for Klopp, he’s basically a flat track bully. Klopp turned also rans into champions both here and in Germany. He is the normal one but we are in unusual times, normal isn’t really suited to the nonsense being called football this season. It would be very apt if the richest club in the world buy the quadruple in a season that is all about football as a business and nothing to do with the football I grew up loving.
Wow, just wow.
Too much to digest but do they think they play computer generated teams every week, cos they are the only team that anything real affects.
My personal favourite is 9.
I mean, who and what ensured the world wide pandemic that has killed hundreds of thousands of people just to stop them buying players in the January transfer window.
This is a person that is 'old', as well, and they are acting like a spoilt brat who thinks the world is against them because they are unable to go to Alton Towers.
That is also something as well, how dare these pesky teams work out how to play another team and try to win the game, the rest of the league disgust me.
Again, apparently this person is 'old'.
Ohhh that's what it is, it's because the banners are red so they can't see the players
Gotta be a wind up that fella
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Last 2 on what list mate?
I'm not talking about playing them now, more about paying 30m in the summer. I'd be amazed if they did that. There will be a whole world of players available who would be better. Basically go and get any championship and potentially league 1 centre back and you will have an upgrade on him. He's woeful.
JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
You would think they have to play more league games than anyone else.
The no fans in the ground wasn't affecting them in December when they were top.
No fans weren't affecting them went they hadn't been beaten at home for a couple of years in December.
Only when the wheels have come off this effects them, nobody else just them.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
I mean I can't even go into a response to that. It's basically QAnon level of right wing fruitcakery, that the world have conspired to have a global pandemic just to stop a football team from winning. I don't even know how to begin responding to that. I mean, even some of their more deluded fans must just look at that and be embaressed by it. That the pandemic is part of a conspiracy to stop Liverpool winning. God help us.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
Yes very good point. You made the summer shorter, to play a summer circus of a season that had no connection of validity to anyone else. Nobody is going to recognise that season in 10 years time. And yes it has caused more injuries this season, which some of us warned about at the time.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
They may need anotehr centre back from the championship to go alongside him.
I mean Davies must be bad that he hasn't got a kick yet. No doubt he will go in and they will all say hes brilliant though.
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
Ohhh that's what it is, it's because the banners are red so they can't see the players
Haven’t laughed at something so hard in ages, that has to be someone pretending to be a red, no one is that thick surely?
JLW
Player Valuation: £70m
I've pretty much just sent a similar message to my kopite mate saying you only have Klopp to blame and he started laughing. So i asked him what is the reason for the injuries and loss of form... No reply!
DownOnTheUpside
Player Valuation: £30m
Yerh can't see him being worth more than £2m since Jordan 'The Wrench' Pickford put five bullets in the back of his head and fed his lifeless corpse through a woodchipper
Alanbileysfeathercut
Player Valuation: £80m
Martin Keown and pass the ball back lpool.
Souness not happy, then keown had a lovely quip about VVD.
Souness not happy, then keown had a lovely quip about VVD.
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