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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


Shibbywiggles said:
We’ve had more key players injured than them this season and Carlo just calmly says things like ‘we’ll make a move if the player is the right fit’ and talks seriously about how it’s difficult during a global pandemic.

Klopp says something along the lines of ‘Wah wah wah, I’m not going to cry like a baby, you’re crying *sniff* the nasty goalkeeper man did it and he ruined everything wah I miss big daddy Virge wah’
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So Klopp is still doing it a different way then ? Then runs out and signs a centre half and goalkeeper for world record fee's, yeah ok Klopp, we believe your not whinging. :)
 
Let's get this straight. Klopp hasn't been right all season. In fact I would say he became unhinged towards the end of last season after lockdown and their form started to dip.

He's had numerous digs at everyone and everything all season and that will only create an anxiety within the squad. Gone is the happy go lucky manager happy to sit there and talk and charm the press. Now he comes across very short, very angry, bitter man who doesn't like not getting his own way.

Once you pick a war with your own board, that only leads to one outcome which he will be very aware of. This is all about self preservation for him now and keeping his reputation intact for his next job offer.
 

MrGrumpy said:
I though they had a comity, which he’s on when buying players, seem weird that he kicking off.
Very odd the wording as well, blaming someone else, He could say nothing or we are still looking for players but to kick up a fuss and blaming some else shows fear and worry.

Wonder which the fans will fall on
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It will be more on Klopp's side but very split. Thats why it will be so divisive.
 
marmor said:
said to my RS mates that, imo, Wijnaldum is their best midfielder. To me he does everything with little exposure. Even Henderson is a good solid midfielder every team needs.
Thiago is a luxury their whole team make up cannot absorb. Good player of which I can’t argue, but not in their system. They don’t need him.
I can’t understand why Klopp went for him unless he wants to change the way the best Liverpool team in a generation is playing. Doesn’t make sense except for vanity.

in addition........ I FKIN hate klopp and I’m laughing my nuts off at what’s happening to him/them.
I’m mid 40s and a pretty level headed bloke so I do at day this lightly, but he’s by far and away the Liverpool manager I hate the most - ever.
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I actually don't hate him that much. I think he's acted a bit of a tit this season. This latest statement though, is really surprising.

You're right about Wijnaldum too. Inexplicable they are lettig him go for no fee.
 

catcherintherye said:
Yes that's a good point.

In general football fans dont really grasp the severity of what is a middle manager calling out the owners in such a public way.

If I went on TV, in front of hundreds of thousands of people and buried the owners of where I work needlessly, I would know it was the beginning of the end for me.

Owners dont change their plans either. If anything it will entrench them. It's a desperate move.

I dont think Klopp makes it if:
1- He thinks theres any feasible chance they can turn it round and win the league
2- That hes not worried top 4 is in jeopardy.

It's pure self preservation. He will know there isnt really any easy way back from this. The owners will have had a plan, he will have been a part of that plan and by all accounts been given more input than most managers theyve had. Yet he breaks cover now, and essentially washes his hands of it at what is the 1st sign of trouble.

Theres blame on both sides, and theres absolutely no doubt Klopp is the magic dust at Liverpool, not FSG (or certainly was) but this is poor from him.

It tells me that the crisis is much deeper than most people realise too. These are not the actions of a man who thinks VVD is imminently returning and all will be fine when he does. It goes well beyond those problems.

We can speculate of course. Maybe it's just that he can see the squad is now into the red zone with nowhere to go. Maybe he knows theres no money in the summer. Could be both. They seem the most obvious to me.

All in all it's a nightmare for FSG. Most managers saying the above would be getting managed out by American owners. Remember when Mourinho did something (less serious admittedly) at United? They hung him out to dry and was sacked within 6 months. Klopp has enormous credit in the bank though, so will be very very hard for them to manage this situation.
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He's impetuous. Owners hate that. Ferguson would concentrate his ire on failing CEOs. He knew how to play the long game and get the chance to build a dynasty.

I said a few weeks back that Klopp cant do dynasty. He's not strategic enough for it. He knows his style of football (and "recovery") gets results but it cant be sustained. He needs to replenish a squad to carry on at the same level of intensity. He did't get it at Dortmund and lost it, and FSG aren't the type of owners to hand that option to him at Liverpool either...and certainly not in this financial environment in football.

The youngsters were their only way out of that...and it turns out they aren't all that.
 
davek said:
He's impetuous. Owners hate that. Ferguson would concentrate his ire on failing CEOs. He knew how to play the long game and get the chance to build a dynasty.

I said a few weeks back that Klopp cant do dynasty. He's not strategic enough for it. He knows his style of football (and "recovery") gets results but it cant be sustained. He needs to replenish a squad to carry on at the same level of intensity. He did't get it at Dortmund and lost it, and FSG aren't the type of owners to hand that option to him at Liverpool either...and certainly not in this financial environment in football.

The youngsters were their only way out of that...and it turns out they aren't all that.
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Yes to all of that.

That statement is a declaration of war too. Hes thrown them under the bus. You learn a lot about people in difficult moments, and I'm sure what FSG have learnt is that at the first sign of trouble he buckles and throws others under the bus. I mean Bill Kenwright and his ilk of chairman are one thing, but I do struggle to see American venture capitalists taking too kindly to what is a middle manager doing what he has done.

As for the 2nd point, a more long term coach would have likely written the season off long ago now. Ferguson would do that. Pep did it last season. Accepted the title was gone and start preparing for next year. It's taken him 12-18 months to box off, but it looks to have paid dividends.

I can see no logical reason why you wouldnt play a lad who's nearly 20 and another who's nearly 24 in their position rather than shoe horning people in. If you are one of their youngsters now, you know you're never going to get a chance.

What hes done is really explosive. He has broken the idea of collective responsibility and many fans now have their stick to get at the owners. As I keep saying, having these spats never ends well for anyone. Say what you want about Ferguson, and to a degree even Moyes, but managers of that outlook understood that.

Nothing is gained from throwing your colleagues and owners under the bus, other than a bit of cheap fanfare.
 

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