ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 2

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davek said:
I think when reality hits eventually this season it will break them. They actually believe in their heart of hearts that it's on for them. When they fail again, Klopp is going to be seen as a false prophet and he'll be down the road quicker than anyone now believes.

I'd be astonished if they dont win a trophy this season that Klopp will be there for next season, despite all the adulation and belief right now. Four seasons with nothing would be APPEALING.
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Fixed that for you dave, because lets face it we'd love it.
 
Saint Domingo said:
If he is outperformed by any of Pochettino, Emery or Sarri then serious questions would have to be asked. Two of them are in their first seasons having to transition from completely opposite playing styles, the other spent zero in the summer. Klopp broke the world record for two positions. It’s second as a minimum or he’ll be under pressure. The uncomfortable truth for them is that he was a missed penalty and a few favourable refereeing decisions away from already being under the microscope. Sturridge’s worldy (a player he doesn’t even rate) and Mahrez’s miss have kept him in the ‘race’ and the wolves at the door.
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Dont forget spur's last minute penalty they should have had at wembley
 
Saint Domingo said:
If he is outperformed by any of Pochettino, Emery or Sarri then serious questions would have to be asked. Two of them are in their first seasons having to transition from completely opposite playing styles, the other spent zero in the summer. Klopp broke the world record for two positions. It’s second as a minimum or he’ll be under pressure. The uncomfortable truth for them is that he was a missed penalty and a few favourable refereeing decisions away from already being under the microscope. Sturridge’s worldy (a player he doesn’t even rate) and Mahrez’s miss have kept him in the ‘race’ and the wolves at the door.
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I have a sneaky feeling Arsenal will do a number on them. He completely out thought Klopp the last time they met and he has a massively superior squad now. Under Wenger they found ways to lose games they ought to have won, he looks to be doing the opposite. He has two of the best finishers in the league up top, a top class creator in Ozil and has given structure to the rest of the team. They look very decent to me. Leno in goal is a big plus too.

They will beat Cardiff at a canter at the weekend, probably a heavy win, but after that things start to look a bit more challenging for them. To me Spurs will get stronger as the season goes on and there is little gap there, and City look like they are ready to go on another supreme run of games where they win almost every week. Chelsea are sticking in quite well. Even United, are not that fa behind them. If by some miracle Mourinho gets through this spell I'd expect them to kick on in the 2nd half of the season.

They've got a lot of decent teams to play as well. In spite of this supposed hard opening fixtures they've played a lot of ordinary teams. Leicester, Huddersfield, Crystal Palace, West Ham, Brighton etc. They still have Watford, Bournemouth, Wolves etc to come. Not top draw opposition, but judging how they are struggling to put away dross like Huddersfield, Palace, Leicester and Brighton more than enough to take points off them.
 
davek said:
2 points between the top five clubs and those weird gets are talking exclusively of a Liverpool v Man City "title showdown".

Utterly laughable, as per 'kin usual.
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What they don't seem to grasp is, this level of expectation and falsification puts their players under undue pressure which has negative results. I remember Corbyn once saying "it's not me they are afraid of it's you" to his members and the opposite is true here. Most of their fanbase are a massive drain on the club.

If you look at what Emery is doing at Arsenal, going under the radar, not being spoken about and ultimately looking like he might over achieve is probably what Klopp would like to emulate. That was not far off the formula at Dortmund. Instead he's got a fanbase and media lackeys continually telling everyone they are better than a team who finished over 20 points higher than them last season. I almost feel sorry for him a bit as he doesn't and as a club they don't seem to thrive under the pressure of being a front runner.

They really are their own worst enemy. So for any lurkers, never change. You are a critical reason as to why your club hasn't won a league for 28 years. The anomaly of how a club who has spent billions of players and not managed to win it is explained by your behaviour.
 
Tommy Chong said:
If you watched both the City game and the RS game today, well then...

Do I even need to comment?!? There is a HUGE gulf of ability between the 2 sides.

City didn't even shift out of 3rd gear and they went on a rampage! AND they've got KDB back now.
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city drew away to Huddersfield, RS played badly and won!
 
Liverpool fans: "We're the most socialist fans ever!"
Also Liverpool fans: "Ha ha, look at Everton, they're so stupid reducing ticket prices for Woodison because they can't sell out games! We could flog tickets for £70 and still fill Anfield!"
Also Liverpool fans: *protested against increased ticket prices*
 
catcherintherye said:
What they don't seem to grasp is, this level of expectation and falsification puts their players under undue pressure which has negative results. I remember Corbyn once saying "it's not me they are afraid of it's you" to his members and the opposite is true here. Most of their fanbase are a massive drain on the club.

If you look at what Emery is doing at Arsenal, going under the radar, not being spoken about and ultimately looking like he might over achieve is probably what Klopp would like to emulate. That was not far off the formula at Dortmund. Instead he's got a fanbase and media lackeys continually telling everyone they are better than a team who finished over 20 points higher than them last season. I almost feel sorry for him a bit as he doesn't and as a club they don't seem to thrive under the pressure of being a front runner.

They really are their own worst enemy. So for any lurkers, never change. You are a critical reason as to why your club hasn't won a league for 28 years. The anomaly of how a club who has spent billions of players and not managed to win it is explained by your behaviour.
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It's something I've pointed out myself a few times mate. The pyro and banner 'show of strength' they made at all the crucial home games toward the season when Rodgers near won it for them spooked the Liverpool players. They were rolling along very nicely and then the Manson Family turn out in their droves with their second rate Ultra Tifosi and frighten the life out of them. Same in the run up to Kiev...had their players taking to the pitch that night petrified of the daunting task their fans created for them: they were there to watch "over the hill" Madrid fall to Klopp's young guns. As soon as they took to the field to warm up that night I could see how frightened they were and I knew straight away they'd be walloped. They were like rabbits caught in headlights - they needed to have the mindset and to see themselves as the outsiders looking to pull off a sesational victory against the odds to have a decent chance there that night but their loony fans took that away from them and they folded like a house of cards.

Let the Kopites talk about their title challenge against City this season. Their players will crumble again under the weight as they see Chelsea, Spurs and possibly Arsenal all leave Liverpool behind.

They never learn, because maniacs dont.
 
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