Ebola? Who Cares?? It's all about MERS now.

[magicjuan]

It requires direct fluid to fluid contact. It is not airborne.

So you'd have to ingest their sweat, or get it in your eye, or wipe it on a cut.

It is only spread with direct contact with the secretions of someone showing signs of infection.

Don't lick sick people.

If it isn't airborne then there has to be some fault with the practices of the medical workers, highly trained in contagion control, who have contractec ebola. Every single one of them, experienced, with all necessary equipment and procefures.

This one is not ebola Zaire, which is what experience is based on, according to on the ground reports this is a mutation, and there is a very strong possibility, bordering on probability, that it is now airborne.

Coukd be some bad juju karma for abusing the bread basket of the world for profit and the comfort of the west. We depend on Africa for cheap foods.

 

[RAFUH]

Why do people underestimate influenza?

Over the last 30 years, the seasonal viruses have killed in the range of 3,000-48,000 PER YEAR just in the US.

Swine flu world wide death toll using conservative estimates for the year 2009 are 200,000 with an upper range of 500,000.

 

[bluelife]

Always worried when I see this thread

 

[RAFUH]

If it isn't airborne then there has to be some fault with the practices of the medical workers, highly trained in contagion control, who have contractec ebola. Every single one of them, experienced, with all necessary equipment and procefures.
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Right, because humans are infallible.

Many of the healthcare workers were not highly trained in infectious disease control. Can you honestly state you believe these countries medical training and facilities are on par with 1st World countries? West Africa including it's hospitals do not have all the appropriate equipment in sufficient supply and certainly not to the standards we use in US/UK. There are even reports that some local healthcare workers doubt the existence of the epidemic/virus - still!

I've seen current imagines with healthcare workers with patients and many have not met the universal precautions standards.

If it was truly airbourne like influenza or SARS, it would be a pandemic by now.

 

[magicjuan]

Right, because humans are infallible.

Manyhe healthcare workers were not highly trained in infectious disease control. Can you honestly state you believe these countries medical training and facilities are on par with 1st World countries? West Africa including it's hospitals do not have all the appropriate equipment in sufficient supply and certainly not to the standards we use in US/UK. There are even reports that some local healthcare workers doubt the existence of the epidemic/virus - still!

I've seen current imagines with healthcare workers with patients and many have not met the universal precautions standards.

If it was truly airbourne like influenza or SARS, it would be a pandemic by now.

Medecin sans frontiers have had over 500 staff there for a while directing procedures, wouldn't have that down to 3rd world standards.,

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBREA3G11W20140417?irpc=932

reports from a while back it was a different strain. As for infallible humans, think in this situation you would be extra careful.

Time will tell but reports and blogs on the ground put the affected numbers much, much higher than our media state

 

[magicjuan]

http://www.independent.ie/world-new...now-out-of-control-claim-medics-30479265.html

 

[Muggins]

Every time I see this thread I know it's bad news.

Bring on the cure.

 

[rascal]

It reaching the UK is inevitable isn't it?

 

[HuddersfieldToffee]

If everyone's going to die - am I okay to smoke in here?

 

[RAFUH]

Medecin sans frontiers have had over 500 staff there for a while directing procedures, wouldn't have that down to 3rd world standards.,

http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBREA3G11W20140417?irpc=932

reports from a while back it was a different strain. As for infallible humans, think in this situation you would be extra careful.

Time will tell but reports and blogs on the ground put the affected numbers much, much higher than our media state

Bring all the people you want, doesn't fix the facilities you work in or the supplies you can get. I'm sure the international organizations do all they can to get the best equipment to their folks, but doesn't mean the locals get it.

The deaths so far have not been foreign healthcare workers (assuming the two Americans make it). Many likely in the first waves in different areas before it was known what they were dealing with.

"Nigerian health authorities acknowledged Tuesday that they did not immediately quarantine a sick airline passenger who later died of Ebola, announcing that eight health workers who had primary contact with him were now in isolation with symptoms of the disease."
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/nigerian-official-show-ebola-symptoms-24848708




Yeah, standard procedure this in the US

 

[tommye]

But if a few people in the UK get it then it sounds like it can easily spread. For instance at a festival, imagine someone sweating for 3 days and in almost constant contact with people. Could spread very quickly...

If festival goers can survive the toilets at Glastonbury, then a piffling little virus like Ebola ain't no biggy.

chillax

 

[tommye]

Why do people underestimate influenza?

Over the last 30 years, the seasonal viruses have killed in the range of 3,000-48,000 PER YEAR just in the US.

who's really arsed about a few dead Americans?

 

[tommye]

Every time I see this thread I know it's bad news.

Bring on the cure.

 

[Elong]

Bit harsh blaming medical workers, they're just doing their best like.

Also, a couple of people keep saying "it's airborne" or "if it becomes airborne". It isn't and it hasn't, scaremongering isn't helping anyone, the transfer thread is bad enough for bullshit.

 

[Prevenger17]

Can it spread through tasteless wreaths? I think I have an idea.