Duncan Ferguson

[billycopper]

It's difficult to fathom that such an aggressive and hot-headed player, who retired to Mallorca and spent his time pigeon-fancying should mature into an "exciting" and "intelligent" coach. I suppose there are certain parallels with Southall, who shunned team celebrations to go home to his wife and clock collection but is still very vocal about Everton matters. Maybe they're both enigmas?

Fair play to Dunc for committing himself to coaching and demonstrating an aptitude for it. I guess Moyes deserves a degree of credit for allowing him to learn the ropes under Sheedy too.

What will Ferguson's role be? Will he work mostly with the strikers or more generally? Is he there to help stir and motivate the group? Is he there as a potential threat if anyone steps out of line or fails to perform? Is the move part of a succession plan?

By the sound of it Duncan has been spending a lot of time with the first-team anyway and it was just a question of formalising the promotion. Roberto knows what he's doing so, hopefully, the move will be a really positive one.

 

[JAYTALITY]

Sky commentary from that is ace. 'You don't need to imagine it now, just soak it in' - remember coming back and watching it over and over. Goodison felt like the old ground there, every bolt, every panel felt like it was straining to keep it upright. It shook, actually shook. If ever there was a moment where you could lose yourself and think, 'this is where I am and this is where I want to be' it was in Goodison, at that moment. It's why you sit through crap 0-0s against Stoke, it's why you idolise a man who was flawed in so many ways. It's why it's not just about winning the title and why you support your club through bad times. And why those bad times matter. Because now and again you get that. And it means everything.

Dead soft, word for word I get everything you said. I'm Irish i make two three games to Goodison a year. I was 17 in 2005 and we went over for the United game. Chants off 'your fat and you slap your bird' at Rooney. His first game back it was. I remember thinking 'this is the best night of my life' Rooney at one stage for my was such a peacon off hope such a great player a favourite but Duncan Ferguson was my childhood hero. He made me remember that night. Legend. When he went to Newcastle I'd never thought I would ever see him play.

After it, I got in a picture with Moyes and Cahill it was a hour or so afterwards. hardly any one was there so Moyes let me in behind the fence. Going around to the Winslow the United bus was waiting on players. A small crowd gathered chanting 'rooney give us a wave' he came out, got on the bus, every one cheered and he stuck his middle finger up. You could see him do it when the camera light flashed at the tint window.

 

[TX Bill]

Thrilled to hear this news.

 

[DanEFC92]

Was over there 2004, 17 year old. I'll be over for the April one. Ah to be sure to be sure.

Are you after my lucky charms?

Big Dunk da funk

Possibly my favourite ever goal.

 

[bignev23]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_Fergusonwhile the second resulted in a £200 fine for punching and kicking a supporter on crutches.

Legend.

 

[Groucho]

The post above, he admitted in a Sky interview that I'm sure someone can find on YouTube, that he was daft as a young lad, and everyone can make mistakes. I'm not condoning that behaviour, btw.

Dead soft, word for word I get everything you said. I'm Irish i make two three games to Goodison a year. I was 17 in 2005 and we went over for the United game. Chants off 'your fat and you slap your bird' at Rooney. His first game back it was. I remember thinking 'this is the best night of my life' Rooney at one stage for my was such a peacon off hope such a great player a favourite but Duncan Ferguson was my childhood hero. He made me remember that night. Legend. When he went to Newcastle I'd never thought I would ever see him play.

After it, I got in a picture with Moyes and Cahill it was a hour or so afterwards. hardly any one was there so Moyes let me in behind the fence. Going around to the Winslow the United bus was waiting on players. A small crowd gathered chanting 'rooney give us a wave' he came out, got on the bus, every one cheered and he stuck his middle finger up. You could see him do it when the camera light flashed at the tint window.

He'd already been back in the FA Cup earlier that season, but this one was the better game.

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

Sky commentary from that is ace. 'You don't need to imagine it now, just soak it in' - remember coming back and watching it over and over. Goodison felt like the old ground there, every bolt, every panel felt like it was straining to keep it upright. It shook, actually shook. If ever there was a moment where you could lose yourself and think, 'this is where I am and this is where I want to be' it was in Goodison, at that moment. It's why you sit through crap 0-0s against Stoke, it's why you idolise a man who was flawed in so many ways. It's why it's not just about winning the title and why you support your club through bad times. And why those bad times matter. Because now and again you get that. And it means everything.

Couldn't have been put better, to know how it feels to be at Goodison on nights like that Don't care what any other teams fans say there's nothing quite like the old lady on them nights. Great post

 

[davek]

I can see how people are up for a former player geting a promotion, but Ferguson as 'next manager' or 'part of a succession plan'? Not sure how anyone wishes for that, tbh. What aptitiude for football management is this based upon? What experience? We are a top club - leaving aside all the nostalgia for a player who really wasn't all that in the first place, I dont think a club of our stature should be thinking along the lines of handing over control to a fledgling coach. If he goes out from Everton and earns a reputation as a decent manager at a good level then no one could argue with him being on a short list for a future Everton manager. Until that point though...

I notice Roberto mentioned he'd be with the first team until the end of the season. Maybe that was an imprecise use of language by him. Or maybe Ferguson has been told to see if he can secure a post somewhere next season and work his way up and prove himself?

 

[Dario Terracotta]

I can see how people are up for a former player geting a promotion, but Ferguson as 'next manager' or 'part of a succession plan'? Not sure how anyone wishes for that, tbh. What aptitiude for football management is this based upon? What experience? We are a top club - leaving aside all the nostalgia for a player who really wasn't all that in the first place, I dont think a club of our stature should be thinking along the lines of handing over control to a fledgling coach. If he goes out from Everton and earns a reputation as a decent manager at a good level then no one could argue with him being on a short list for a future Everton manager. Until that point though...

I notice Roberto mentioned he'd be with the first team until the end of the season. Maybe that was an imprecise use of language by him. Or maybe Ferguson has been told to see if he can secure a post somewhere next season and work his way up and prove himself?

I think Martinez is trying to cover himself by giving him a grounding with the first team squad until the end of the season working in tandem with Graeme Jones who I think then may well get the Swansea job in the summer.

 

[davek]

I think Martinez is trying to cover himself by giving him a grounding with the first team squad until the end of the season working in tandem with Graeme Jones who I think then may well get the Swansea job in the summer.

Maybe. But that lad who has the reins now at Swansea is doing very well.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Come on Dave, everyone knows that Duncan will be the best manager in the world cause ex violent criminal thugs always are.
And ones who used to play for everton are even better.

 

[davek]

Come on Dave, everyone knows that Duncan will be the best manager in the world cause ex violent criminal thugs always are.
And ones who used to play for everton are even better.

To be fair to him though, if he went out and proved himself elsewhere as a top manager working with finite resources, I'd put the red carpet out for him to return myself. I think people are getting ahead of themselves with this though. A succession to Ferguson from Martinez would underline exactly why we seem to put up with remaining unsuccessful for so long.

 

[Groucho]

I think @davek makes a good point in that it's best, if ultimately he is to be our manager one day, that he gains experience as a head honcho in a competitive league setting ie. lower divisions.

While I would hate to see him leave, I really would, just like a player going out on loan for match practice a là Shane Duffy, it would be beneficial for a young coach with aspirations also.

I'm certainly not looking to move Duncan or Martinez out of the door though, I love them both and we have a tradition (Mike Walker aside) of backing rather than sacking managers - long may they stay, hopefully. I suppose we have to consider the hypothetical long term, though.

 

[Joey66]

A good talisman to have as a coach - never an EFC Legend though if you look at his goals tally on appearances , and the sale to Newcastle FC his injuries caught up with him he must have been a great player when younger up in Scotland old videos show him up there and he was so fast on the ground, but Everton through and through - may be able to coach our strikers how to score form a corner!

 

[Seamus Colemole]

To be fair to him though, if he went out and proved himself elsewhere as a top manager working with finite resources, I'd put the red carpet out for him to return myself. I think people are getting ahead of themselves with this though. A succession to Ferguson from Martinez would underline exactly why we seem to put up with remaining unsuccessful for so long.

Yeah same here, I love the guy and it would be awesome if he managed the club one day but only if he proves himself to be a good enough manager elsewhere first.
Simply shouting at players till they crap themselves instead of managerial ability isn't good enough.