Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[mezzrow]

I really wouldn't have, because he would have been much more likely to actually carry out the things that Trump's many personal failings have thus far precluded.

Ironically, Trump's ineptitude is critical to the sense among Trump supporters that things are improving (though obviously, the illiberal bubble won't admit that at least in terms of the economic statistics we use to measure these things, this was apparent long before he arrived in the White House).

Had he actually managed to pass the health care bill, as Scott Walker might well have, this would decidedly not be the perception. People like Scott Walker and Paul Ryan have made it their life's mission to command the full power of the state to not just transfer wealth from rich to poor, but to take special care to humiliate the latter in the process. A uniquely American tradition of "libertarianism."

Did you read the entire article? You should.

No doubt even more TL;DR, but if anyone wants to know more about Scott Walker, this is one place to start:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...scott-walker-corporate-cash-american-politics

I've read it. We differ on a few points that doesn't bear review, as the questions that we will be dealing with are a bit more fraught than guaranteeing wealth transfers from public employee paychecks to public employee unions, to then be forwarded into political action committees for the state Democratic party. Not that the institutional GOP wouldn't have done the same if they'd have gotten the opportunity, which is a large part of my point.

No Lincoln is waiting on the horizon, and he wasn't a hero until he was dead anyway. Doing the right thing in that position in those kinds of times can kill a man.

 

[abelard]

I've read it. We differ on a few points that doesn't bear review, as the questions that we will be dealing with are a bit more fraught than guaranteeing wealth transfers from public employee paychecks to public employee unions, to then be forwarded into political action committees for the state Democratic party. Not that the institutional GOP wouldn't have done the same if they'd have gotten the opportunity, which is a large part of my point.

No Lincoln is waiting on the horizon, and he wasn't a hero until he was dead anyway. Doing the right thing in that position in those kinds of times can kill a man.

not to be a pest, but I would add that winning elections because you've best appealed to the whims of the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson and other such ghouls is, it seems to me, about the right level of fraughtness for the questions that we will be and very much are dealing with.

also a problem for both parties, to be sure, just a different set of ghouls.

liking the new avatar there, muzzruh

 

[mezzrow]

liking the new avatar there, muzzruh

leans to the Right, natch.

 

[abelard]

leans to the Right, natch.

i actually had that thought!

shouldn't it be red though?

 

[Ruairi77]

It's all go tonight!

 

[chicoazul]

It's like the best ever series of The West Wing this, except it's real.

 

[ilikecheese]

I can't argue with much of this. Now conduct a similar examination of the left and its present appeal. There aren't many heroes here on either team.

That cold Civil War is heating up. DC is no longer the self-licking ice cream cone it was constructed to be, and it doesn't like it a bit. Many are confused, more are gobsmacked, and most are beginning to realize that the last twenty years has seen the worst political class in the USA since the 1850's. If your house was in order, we wouldn't have gotten Trump. Wouldn't you, like me, rather have had Scott Walker? Trump was pushed down our throats by CNN because they knew Hillary would beat him. Remember that? I thought they were right. Didn't you?

Don't discount the fact that outside the political bubble, the perception is that the economy and "things in general" are improving for the Trump voters. It'll never be printed in Post or the Times, but that perception is real.

Hang on...did you just blame CNN for Trump being elected?

You voted for that utterly repugnant lizard because of CNN?

 

[mezzrow]

Hang on...did you just blame CNN for Trump being elected?

You voted for that utterly repugnant lizard because of CNN?

I voted against Hillary. Most of us did. Repugnance is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[mezzrow]

i actually had that thought!

shouldn't it be red though?

There's a limit, and you're getting close to the line. I'm blue through and through.

The red/blue thing switched [was a plot by a cabal of Democratic party sympathizers in media] back in the 70's and 80's. It used to be the other way around.

I was there. At the time, I didn't even notice.

 

[Ruairi77]

I voted against Hillary. Most of us did. Repugnance is in the eye of the beholder.

Aaaeerrrrggggghhhh
Edit. This is what happens when I'm lost for words

 

[abelard]

It's like the best ever series of The West Wing this, except it's real.

and the goods guys and their flashy debate skills don't always carry the day in the end

 

[ilikecheese]

I voted against Hillary. Most of us did. Repugnance is in the eye of the beholder.

You forgot to answer the first question.

You elected this mess. You have to live with that. A billionaire who duped millions of people that he was a man of the people. He only wants to know how he can profit from the people.

Someone wholly unready to govern.

 

[mezzrow]

Aaaeerrrrggggghhhh

Governor Dean?

 

[verreauxi]

Governor Dean?

That's well done.

 

[mezzrow]

You forgot to answer the first question.

Nobody said there would be a test at the end.