Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[RaleighBlue]

Let’s be very, very clear: This election ultimately wasn’t about defeating the “establishment.” It was about defeating the progressive establishment. The Republican establishment — the hated “GOPe” — ends this year with more power than it’s enjoyed in a century, and perhaps since Reconstruction. Mitch McConnell is more powerful. Paul Ryan is more powerful. The Republican party will control the White House, Congress, judicial nominations, and the vast majority of the states. The Republican party runs the United States. The GOP presidential landslides of 1972, 1980, 1984, and 1988 were inconsequential by comparison, resulting in divided government and with Democrats far more ascendant at the state level. By contrast, there is now a Republican governor of Vermont. And if you think that Trump carried down-ballot Republicans to victory, think again. He undoubtedly helped secure victories in states such as Indiana, Missouri, and Pennsylvania, but in Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, and Wisconsin, the Republican Senate victor won more votes than Trump. In close losses like Nevada and (perhaps) New Hampshire, the GOP Senate candidate also out-polled Trump. Tea-party Republicans won. Establishment center-right Republicans won. And they won not just because Republican voters turned out — GOP turnout wasn’t particularly heavy, and Trump is likely to win roughly the same number of votes that Romney did — but because Democrats stayed home by the millions.

http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...t-progressive-agenda-rightward-shift-historic

BTW, if you think NR backed Trump, you haven't been reading the National Review. The nation did just stand astride history and say "STOP!", though.

Half the nation did not. Just as progressives need to view this as a wake up call regarding their abandonment of the blue collar workers, conservatives should not take it as an absolute mandate.

People are unhappy with the system in general, including the GOP. Or have you forgotten that Trump was despised within his own party?

Hillary Clinton was anything but a progressive candidate. Which is why her base stayed home by the millions. A true mandate of the people would have had Trump thrashing her in the popular vote as well as the Electoral College because it would mean that more independents and moderate democrats had jumped to his side. They all stayed home.

The Democrats nominated someone that could not speak to her base.

 

[mezzrow]

Half the nation did not. Just as progressives need to view this as a wake up call regarding their abandonment of the blue collar workers, conservatives should not take it as an absolute mandate.

People are unhappy with the system in general, including the GOP. Or have you forgotten that Trump was despised within his own party?

Hillary Clinton was anything but a progressive candidate. Which is why her base stayed home by the millions. A true mandate of the people would have had Trump thrashing her in the popular vote as well as the Electoral College because it would mean that more independents and moderate democrats had jumped to his side. They all stayed home.

The Democrats nominated someone that could not speak to her base.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/donald-trump-potus.92716/page-13#post-5014956

 

[deipnosophist]

you know thats not what they mean..

pickled onions

 

[RaleighBlue]

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/donald-trump-potus.92716/page-13#post-5014956

Basically, this is a mess. Our divisions are great and growing. We just elected a man that (until his election) preached a doctrine of division and hate.

We need to reconcile or split. The middle and south of the U.S. and the Northeast/West Coast are in a bad marriage and this has just underlined it.

 

[mezzrow]

Basically, this is a mess. Our divisions are great and growing. We just elected a man that (until his election) preached a doctrine of division and hate.

We need to reconcile or split. The middle and south of the U.S. and the Northeast/West Coast are in a bad marriage and this has just underlined it.

Some say that our President-elect is a powerful persuader.

He better be.

In addition, many on the left could take a lesson from the graciousness and decorum of our current first family in this transition. I echo Barack Obama's words, and admire his continued calmness and grace so far in this transition.

E Pluribus Unum. Now more than ever.

 

[ilikecheese]

E Pluribus Unum. Now more than ever.

I certainly hope he remembers that when drafting policy that impacts ALL Americans...

 

[davmaher]

Juncker making friends and influencing people. The below is from the BBC:

"Donald Trump's election as US president risks upsetting US ties with Europe, EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has warned.

"We will need to teach the president-elect what Europe is and how it works," Mr Juncker told a student audience in Luxembourg.

Intercontinental relations may be affected "in their foundation and in their structure", he said.

His remarks contrasted with other EU leaders' more muted reactions.

Pence replaces Christie in Trump handover

Will Trump-style revolt engulf Europe?

Quoted by Luxembourg newspaper Le Quotidien, Mr Juncker, a former prime minister of the tiny state, continued: "In general the Americans pay no heed to Europe. As for Mr Trump, if I understand properly, he thinks Belgium is a village somewhere on our continent...

"My honest opinion? With Mr Trump, we are going to waste two years while he tours a world he doesn't know."

During the election campaign, Mr Trump caused alarm in EU circles with his sharp criticism of Nato, the cornerstone of Western Europe's defence structure, and calls for better relations with Russia.

His promise to "cancel" the Paris Climate Agreement within 100 days of taking office and protectionist stance on trade have also caused concern, as have his controversial comments about ethnic and religious minorities."

While EU leaders congratulated the Republican on his shock victory over Hillary Clinton, German Chancellor Angela Merkel stressed in her message to him that the US and Germany shared "the values of democracy, freedom, respect for the rule of law and human dignity, regardless of origin, skin colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation or political belief".

 

[mezzrow]

I certainly hope he remembers that when drafting policy that impacts ALL Americans...

Me too. If he doesn't, he'll get to deal with the consequences just like the current regime.

It is terrifically hard to sustain power through a third administration for any political party in the USA. That's why Roosevelt and Reagan, for example, are just extraordinary figures. Bush I was the third term of Reagan, and he failed to live up to his lofty expectations, with predictable results. My wife was convinced his heart was no longer in it in 1992, and I think she was right.

It takes an uncommon gift. Donald Trump is certainly uncommon. Does he have a gift? Scott Adams seems to think so, and he's been one of the few that have been right on top of this. We sure could use a gift for healing right now.

You never know. Stranger things have happened.

Have you heard the Cubs won the World Series?

 

[DanEFC92]

And so it begins

 

[JonS]

Juncker making friends and influencing people. The below is from the BBC:

"Donald Trump's election as US president risks upsetting US ties with Europe, EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has warned.

"We will need to teach the president-elect what Europe is and how it works," Mr Juncker told a student audience in Luxembourg.

Intercontinental relations may be affected "in their foundation and in their structure", he said.

His remarks contrasted with other EU leaders' more muted reactions.

Pence replaces Christie in Trump handover

Will Trump-style revolt engulf Europe?

Quoted by Luxembourg newspaper Le Quotidien, Mr Juncker, a former prime minister of the tiny state, continued: "In general the Americans pay no heed to Europe. As for Mr Trump, if I understand properly, he thinks Belgium is a village somewhere on our continent...

"My honest opinion? With Mr Trump, we are going to waste two years while he tours a world he doesn't know."

During the election campaign, Mr Trump caused alarm in EU circles with his sharp criticism of Nato, the cornerstone of Western Europe's defence structure, and calls for better relations with Russia.

His promise to "cancel" the Paris Climate Agreement within 100 days of taking office and protectionist stance on trade have also caused concern, as have his controversial comments about ethnic and religious minorities."

While EU leaders congratulated the Republican on his shock victory over Hillary Clinton, German Chancellor Angela Merkel stressed in her message to him that the US and Germany shared "the values of democracy, freedom, respect for the rule of law and human dignity, regardless of origin, skin colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation or political belief".

My word, that Juncker really is an arrogant so and so. Those comments are very demeaning to Trump and by extension to the US and it's voters. Juncker seems to have a real superiority complex...

 

[ilikecheese]

Me too. If he doesn't, he'll get to deal with the consequences just like the current regime.

It is terrifically hard to sustain power through a third administration for any political party in the USA. That's why Roosevelt and Reagan, for example, are just extraordinary figures. Bush I was the third term of Reagan, and he failed to live up to his lofty expectations, with predictable results. My wife was convinced his heart was no longer in it in 1992, and I think she was right.

It takes an uncommon gift. Donald Trump is certainly uncommon. Does he have a gift? Scott Adams seems to think so, and he's been one of the few that have been right on top of this. We sure could use a gift for healing right now.

You never know. Stranger things have happened.

Have you heard the Cubs won the World Series?

One could argue that Democrats have won 6 out of the last 7 presidential elections.

I do not believe people change on a dime. He has succeeded in his life by being an outspoken bully. When he doesn't get his way he lies and cheats until he gets his way. The campaign he ran was built on lies and hate. Donald is about Donald. That tweet last night just reiterates that.

He didn't give a flying F to try to understand why people are protesting across the country. He made it about him.

It is his job to extend the olive branch now. I don't think he is truly capable of doing that.

The real tragedy about the Cubs winning is that Harry Caray wasn't alive to see it.

 

[Toffeelover]

Juncker making friends and influencing people. The below is from the BBC:

"Donald Trump's election as US president risks upsetting US ties with Europe, EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has warned.

"We will need to teach the president-elect what Europe is and how it works," Mr Juncker told a student audience in Luxembourg.

Intercontinental relations may be affected "in their foundation and in their structure", he said.

His remarks contrasted with other EU leaders' more muted reactions.

Pence replaces Christie in Trump handover

Will Trump-style revolt engulf Europe?

Quoted by Luxembourg newspaper Le Quotidien, Mr Juncker, a former prime minister of the tiny state, continued: "In general the Americans pay no heed to Europe. As for Mr Trump, if I understand properly, he thinks Belgium is a village somewhere on our continent...

"My honest opinion? With Mr Trump, we are going to waste two years while he tours a world he doesn't know."

During the election campaign, Mr Trump caused alarm in EU circles with his sharp criticism of Nato, the cornerstone of Western Europe's defence structure, and calls for better relations with Russia.

His promise to "cancel" the Paris Climate Agreement within 100 days of taking office and protectionist stance on trade have also caused concern, as have his controversial comments about ethnic and religious minorities."

While EU leaders congratulated the Republican on his shock victory over Hillary Clinton, German Chancellor Angela Merkel stressed in her message to him that the US and Germany shared "the values of democracy, freedom, respect for the rule of law and human dignity, regardless of origin, skin colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation or political belief".

Well that is one way to start talks with the Usa and it's new president.

He has just confirmed by his own words he is an idiot. BTW the Uk was against him taking the presidency of the EU but we were voted down.

 

[davmaher]

Well that is one way to start talks with the Usa and it's new president.

He has just confirmed by his own words he is an idiot. BTW the Uk was against him taking the presidency of the EU but we were voted down.

Exactly. Given that the EU is supposed to be wanting to negotiate a trade deal with the US it just beggars belief.

 

[Toffeelover]

Exactly. Given that the EU is supposed to be wanting to negotiate a trade deal with the US it just beggars belief.

It does indeed, could say it will help the UK with the USA.

 

[dublinbluenose]

And so it begins

His pledge on corporation tax also moved from 15% to 15-20% yesterday - it will be 25% before the end of the year.