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he's a cad and maybe even a cockwomble, but no one should be calling him a rapist (for a start there's never been charges or plans for a trial)


true, although to be fair he did accuse a bunch of innocent black teenagers (central park five) of being rapists once... and still says they are guilty years on despite them being cleared.

so can't say I'm particularly arsed by people wrongfully calling him a rapist.
 
true, although to be fair he did accuse a bunch of innocent black teenagers (central park five) of being rapists once... and still says they are guilty years on despite them being cleared.

so can't say I'm particularly arsed by people wrongfully calling him a rapist.

you talking 'bout Trump? we were referring to Assange, mate.

tho' there are parallels in the timing of accusations...
 
what volumes? that i support innocent-until-proven-guilty and support the whistleblowing actions of Manning, Assange & Snowden?

bad character that. take away my passport, lock me in solitary and make public accusations that i've raped.

and what about yourself? you're anti-russian, anti-trump and anti-assange...it all fits nicely, doesn't it? saves having to think, i expect.

I am not anti-Russian. I am most definitely anti-Putin though. He doesn't have the best interest of America or America's allies at heart...nor his own people. He is a dictator and corrupt. There a millions of good people from Russia living in my country for a reason. The chose to seek a better life away from the leadership of their country.

I am most definitely anti-Trump. I do not believe he has America's best interest at heart either. Trump only cares about himself and is set to make a massive profit from his conflicts of interest while in the White House.

Assange also doesn't have the best interests of my country at heart and should be in jail with the ladyboy who admits he/she is guilty.
I hope he rots in Ecuador.
 
Assange also doesn't have the best interests of my country at heart and should be in jail with the ladyboy who admits he/she is guilty.
I hope he rots in Ecuador.

You're a really intelligent guy and you've been extraordinarily informative in this thread, but I have to say that referring to trans people as ladyboys is a little dated.
 
You're a really intelligent guy and you've been extraordinarily informative in this thread, but I have to say that referring to trans people as ladyboys is a little dated.

That is fair enough and I apologize if I offended anyone.

I typed that super fast from the grocery store parking lot after work if I'm 100% honest and Manning's name was escaping me in the moment.
 
That is fair enough and I apologize if I offended anyone.

I typed that super fast from the grocery store parking lot after work if I'm 100% honest and Manning's name was escaping me in the moment.

You're a classy guy. Not every bloke is man enough to hold their hands upwhen they've made a slight faux pas.
 
You're a classy guy. Not every bloke is man enough to hold their hands upwhen they've made a slight faux pas.

Meh...you were right to pull me up.

That wasn't acceptable on my part. I live in a part of the world where trans folks are totally accepted by most...myself included. I feel lucky to live where I do where folks overwhelmingly have a live and let live attitude about folks.
 
You're a really intelligent guy and you've been extraordinarily informative in this thread

This is incredible praise for someone who's only just now revealed anything but.

@ilikecheese has questioned my character for sticking up for Assange's belief that he's being stitched up by the americans...in the same breath he's wanting Assange jailed alongside Manning for whistleblowing. Wants him jailed in the US for "not serving the best interests of my country" and if this isn't possible hoping he rots in asylum instead.

This is precisely what Assange is paranoid of: american vindictiveness (i.e. he'll be extradited to US as soon as he left the Equadorian embassy).

The UN themselves have ruled that Assange is being effectively detained against his will, because of this american push to arrest him. How many millions have the British spent now in keeping 24/7 surveillance of the embassy? For an alleged 'soft rapist' wanted in Sweden for mere questioning ?


It's a stunning example of the kind of hypocritical self-rightousness which many in the world associate USA with. Arrogance by any other name.

At the very least admit the rape accusations are rubbish: they want him because of his whistleblowing. At least then we could have a normal debate, instead people hide behind the he's a rapist who must turn himself in and anyone supporting him is a rape apologist.

Dishonest dangerous stuff. But occasionally the mask slips.

And in keeping it on-topic, this is very much related to Trump: who supports Wikileaks, arguably gained from their leaks and also endured a barrage of questionably-timed accusations. And then there's Russia who are hosting Snowden under asylum (yet Snowden can still freely criticise Russia as well as US)...

...lots of fine intrigue indeed, for those who are interested. Load of bollocks from those who aren't.
 
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