Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon
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BirkenheadBlue
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I sort of agree with what some of you guys are saying re: this isn’t the way to do things, and that there’s constitutional ways to remove a sitting President.
In theory.
The problem is that at this moment, in this situation, those constitutional means are obsolete or broken.
The founders, foresaw the possibility of a President who needs to be removed. Unfortunately they didn’t foresee, and certainly didn’t do anything to account for the possibility of such a President allied with a Congress who refuse to conduct their oversight responsibilities.
Let’s be very clear - there is NO current way to remove Donald Trump from office. Even if the Democrats win the House, they won’t have a majority (or certainly not a big enough one) in the Senate to convict/remove him in an impeachment trial.
In theory.
The problem is that at this moment, in this situation, those constitutional means are obsolete or broken.
The founders, foresaw the possibility of a President who needs to be removed. Unfortunately they didn’t foresee, and certainly didn’t do anything to account for the possibility of such a President allied with a Congress who refuse to conduct their oversight responsibilities.
Let’s be very clear - there is NO current way to remove Donald Trump from office. Even if the Democrats win the House, they won’t have a majority (or certainly not a big enough one) in the Senate to convict/remove him in an impeachment trial.
No, but there would be an impeachment trial where, I'd imagine, there'd be proof of tax evasion, bank fraud, collusion with the Russians and obstruction of Justice. If you could tie all that up in a neat bow, I'd imagine a lot of senators would flip as Trump would be toxic (to all but the far right) for 2020.
I can't make up my mind whether I think it's cowardly to remain anonymous, or the right thing to do. It does concern me that this is happening now and in this manner, it suggests things have gone seriously wrong and rocking the ship before the midterms is the only way to get him impeached.
Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
I'm sure the anonymous author would fear for their life if they revealed themselves now
Perhaps this article from David Frum might help in deciding what is right:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/this-is-a-constitutional-crisis/569443/
BirkenheadBlue
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Like I said, I’m really torn.
Do we really think that sort of proof would make any difference?
It’s not like we (and they) don’t already know he’s guilty of all those things.
I remember when Rand Paul claimed to be a small government libertarian.
I have thought about it on both ends. Whilst I don't agree with the idea of people "revolting" against Trump, I, at least, am a bit thankful for them. It's weird, completely for and against the idea at the same time.
BirkenheadBlue
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Rand Paul is, was and will always be nothing but a complete and utter hypocrite and opportunist
Why is Jennifer Love Hewitt sitting behind Kavanaugh?
It those moments you wish they had evidence to throw back in his smug face.
This to me is a problem with these hearings. Its just many hours of the democrats or opposition throwing out every fact and information someone has passed onto them. But what will it do? Unless they have hard evidence of something he has done that is reprehensible all it looks like to conservative voters is that they are obstructing.
Of course they can say he does not recall as he will still get confirmed anyway.
It's a sad state of affairs really.
Booker and Harris coming up in the next hour-ish. Should be/could be very interesting.
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