Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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I think Trump has picked quite a good fight over tariffs. This steel thing is just a feint. Those affected, EU, Canada etc, will attempt to reciprocate with tariffs of their own on other items. Trump will raise the bar and hit the things he really wants to hit, like cars, with massive tariff increases. The EU etc will cave in and eventually deals will be done, but the current trade imbalances will be traded out and the USA will be in a better position. You should all be getting behind him as he’s doing it for you..........
 
I think Trump has picked quite a good fight over tariffs. This steel thing is just a feint. Those affected, EU, Canada etc, will attempt to reciprocate with tariffs of their own on other items. Trump will raise the bar and hit the things he really wants to hit, like cars, with massive tariff increases. The EU etc will cave in and eventually deals will be done, but the current trade imbalances will be traded out and the USA will be in a better position. You should all be getting behind him as he’s doing it for you..........
Why should I get behind a monumentally stupid idea which will make thousands of people pay more for everyday items and cost lots of people jobs? And to assume Trump does anything for anyone but himself is ludicrous.
 
Why should I get behind a monumentally stupid idea which will make thousands of people pay more for everyday items and cost lots of people jobs?

Because ultimately it won’t. When the imbalance is overcome, more jobs will be created in the USA and the pricing of imported goods will be as now. American exports and your economy will rise.......unless of course nobody folds.....
 
Because ultimately it won’t. When the imbalance is overcome, more jobs will be created in the USA and the pricing of imported goods will be as now. American exports and your economy will rise.......unless of course nobody folds.....
”Ultimately” can be a long time even if someone folds and there can be very real short term costs both finanical (as when Bush amd Obama tried this dumb move) and diplomatic.
 
”Ultimately” can be a long time even if someone folds and there can be very real short term costs both finanical (as when Bush amd Obama tried this dumb move) and diplomatic.

Jobs would start to increase almost immediately to make up for the import shortfalls. Diplomatically no one likes him anyway, not even Americans, so nothing really to lose. Like I said, he’s picked a good fight here....
 
Jobs would start to increase almost immediately to make up for the import shortfalls. Diplomatically no one likes him anyway, not even Americans, so nothing really to lose. Like I said, he’s picked a good fight here....
How? Describe to me how jobs will increase Pete? There are many more jobs associated with companies that use steel/aluminum than those related to making it and that isn’t even counting those in industries hit by reciprocal tarriffs.
There is lot to lose diplomatically, especially with our closest neighbors Canada and Mexico, Nafta talks in particular.
 
Jobs would start to increase almost immediately to make up for the import shortfalls. Diplomatically no one likes him anyway, not even Americans, so nothing really to lose. Like I said, he’s picked a good fight here....
Ok so what happens to the Dow while we wait for the other sides to fold?
And is it wise to start trade wars with your allies while sanctioning oil producers. The other countries will just sit back and watch us get squeezed between increasing gas prices and a decreasing stock market.
There’ll also be an inevitable slowdown in the construction industry.
 
Ok so what happens to the Dow while we wait for the other sides to fold?
And is it wise to start trade wars with your allies while sanctioning oil producers. The other countries will just sit back and watch us get squeezed between increasing gas prices and a decreasing stock market.
There’ll also be an inevitable slowdown in the construction industry.

Yes, I think a moderately prolongued trade spat is more likely to deflate the stock market/asset price soufflé, which has long been propped up by pixie dust and moonbeams, before the consumer economy really feels the pain. That wouldn't actually be the worst side effect, except that the debt-riddled workers whose wages have been stagnant for last forty years in order to keep it afloat will - by design - inevitably have to bail out the finance and real estate sectors again. They probably shouldn't have voted for Goldman Sachs in 2016.

Of course, given that we've been pulling full tilt on the pixie dust and moonbeam emergency lever ever since the last meltdown, there will be nothing monetary policy can do to help fix the next one. That's when world politics will really get fun.

The funny thing about the White House's Failed-Pentagon-Consipracy-War-Games-Plotters/Trump's-Senile-Brain-Spasms Combo is that the most immediate winners will be Russia, Venezuela, and Iran. Iran's ability to withstand sanctions goes up exponentially with every dollar rise in the price of oil; probably the only reason they agreed to the nuclear deal in the first place was to contain the fallout from Saudi retaliation against US fracking by spiking the price of oil.
 
Just. Been on LBC the leader of the WTO states what trump is proposing by selecting different tarrifs in the same organisation i.e. WTO to certain countries is biased, and not legal, but hey ho Trump hates the EU who imo are far from perfect!
 
I can't help but like Trump. He's a comedy villain. The wig being his costume. Has the beauty queen wife. Talks the talk. etc..
Sure he's ruining lives, but what American politician isn't?
 
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