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When people think Trump and Le Pen are the answer I fear for humanity.
Don't think anybody's saying that they are, I am not anyway just chatting about it, not endorsing it.
SNova knows I think the EU is going to collapse and is just debating them as a prelude to it we are more than likely at polar ends of the political spectrum but we can converse quite well as neither takes it to much to heart.
 
When people think Trump and Le Pen are the answer I fear for humanity.
Intelligent people falling for this nonsense again...'water the rhetoric down a bit'...' blame the immigrants but not in obviously racist way'...' blame political institutions, the eu for example'..'thats how we win, that's how we get our way, then we can do what we really want to..'
 
Don't think anybody's saying that they are, I am not anyway just chatting about it, not endorsing it.
SNova knows I think the EU is going to collapse and is just debating them as a prelude to it we are more than likely at polar ends of the political spectrum but we can converse quite well as neither takes it to much to heart.
I understand but maybe not taking to heart is the problem. Too often we listen to sound bites and bias from one side or the other. It seems the days of actual research and investigation are long gone.
 
Which is awful. People tarred with the same brush. Do you want a ban on all English people going to international football tournaments?

Not really. if you know terrorism is being sourced from one location then it would make sense not to then have an open immigration policy for those people. same as those who travel across Europe to get to France and Germany and wherever else, they can do that because there is open access to do that.

So in a world with 100s of countries if you stop taking people from a place which holds a high risk of terrorism creeping through and work on the issue as he said he wanted to do in the same sentences by the way, then you minimise the risk of terrorism happening in your country.

Because that's the thing, if you believe out of every country in the world there is a chance one or two house extremist terrorists who wouod be willing to harm your country, wouod you still give that country open access knowing full well they are proven to be a source of horrible events happening? Or wouod you look to solve the problem in the first instance and thus make the immigration unnecessary?
 
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Not really. if you know terrorism is being sourced from one location then it would make sense not to then have an open immigration policy for those people. same as those who travel across Europe to get to France and Germany and wherever else, they can do that because there is open access to do that.

So in a world with 100s of countries if you stop taking people from a place which holds a high risk of terrorism creeping through and work on the issue as he said he wanted to do in the same sentences by the way, then you minimise the risk of terrorism happening in your country.

Because that's the thing, if you believe out of every country in the world there is a chance one or two house extremist terrorists who wouod be willing to harm your country, wouod you still give that country open access knowing full well they are proven to be a source of horrible events happening? Or wouod you look to solve the problem in the first instance and thus make the immigration unnecessary?

So we should ban the immigration of Irish and American people too then?
 

Not saying he is perfect.

I'm saying for any negative thing he has said there has been a lot the media have spun just to make him come across as evil. whether he is evil or not in the general sense I am not debating. But I wouod wager a lot of credited quotes to him have been broadcast out of context which make him seem solely racist and xenophobic despite him actually having more reasonable context as to his aims.
 
So we should ban the immigration of Irish and American people too then?
Americans don't commit terrorism mate. and the Irish stopped a long time ago, funnily enough after we stepped in and tried to help thst which is what Trump has said he wants to do.
 
I understand but maybe not taking to heart is the problem. Too often we listen to sound bites and bias from one side or the other. It seems the days of actual research and investigation are long gone.
Let's face it, in reality most people vote for things they see around them or how things they feel things are affecting them, the facts and figures are the icing in the cake to support that.
Lots of people now don't take anything as gospel as we have been fed a line once to often.
The problems as I see it anyway is that the political class see the voters as the problem rather than learn from them why they hold those views, and why the vote a certain way they hold us all in distain.
 
Americans don't commit terrorism mate. and the Irish stopped a long time ago, funnily enough after we stepped in and tried to help thst which is what Trump has said he wants to do.

Oh dear.

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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Report-Apple-considers-building-the-iPhone-in-the-U.S._id87928

Report: Apple considers building the iPhone in the U.S.
Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 17:19, by Alan F.

Tags : iOSAppletrying to start a boycott of the company for its failure to unlock a terrorist's iPhone, Trump was upset at the tech titan for building its products overseas. Trump had floated the idea of a 35% tax on imported products made outside of the U.S. A Trump administration, said The Donald, would force Apple "to build their damn computers in this country instead of other countries."

Today, a story in the Nikkei Asian Review cited an anonymous source for its report that Apple is investigating the possibility of manufacturing the iPhone in the states. Apple allegedly spoke with Foxconn and Pegatron, the two contract manufacturers it uses to build its smartphones and tablets. Apple allegedly brought the idea of moving production to the attention of the two companies back in June. That was five months after Trump originally made his comments about Apple's overseas device production, but five months prior to his election.

According to the source, Foxconn agreed to help Apple come up with a plan to move iPhone production to the U.S. Pegatron, on the other hand, refused to get involved because the cost would be prohibitive.

The source told the publication that moving iPhone production to the U.S. would more than double the cost of making the device. One of the problems facing Apple is that not all of the components for the iPhone can be produced in the U.S. The report added that the Taiwan based supply chain believes that Trump will force Apple to make a certain percentage of iPhone components in the states.
 
Let's face it, in reality most people vote for things they see around them or how things they feel things are affecting them, the facts and figures are the icing in the cake to support that.
Lots of people now don't take anything as gospel as we have been fed a line once to often.
The problems as I see it anyway is that the political class see the voters as the problem rather than learn from them why they hold those views, and why the vote a certain way they hold us all in distain.
I agree mostly with this. I was active in local politics for twenty years and most people seem to vote for a party regardless of what is happening locally, hence Bootle, (where I was active), still votes in a labour MP despite its massive decline over the last twenty years.
 
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