Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[RAFUH]

Surprised that sprinklers aren’t mandatory in such a building, sad that there was a sad outcome but glad that there wasn’t further loss of life.

I read the building was built before sprinklers were required in residential areas.
When a law did pass, older buildings where grandfathered in. I think if major renovations are done, then they have to be upgraded to meet new standards.

Edit: I should add that Trump was very active in opposing the law, especially retrofitting sprinklers

 

[RAFUH]

Anyone else amused that Kushner's building number is 666?

 

[dholliday]

I read the building was built before sprinklers were required in residential areas.
When a law did pass, older buildings where grandfathered in. I think if major renovations are done, then they have to be upgraded to meet new standards.

Correct. Trump added sprinklers in another one of his towers, but his argument at the time was that sprinklers if anything shoud be mandatory in private properties for that's where most fires happen. Probably a sound argument.

 

[Walken]

Correct. Trump added sprinklers in another one of his towers, but his argument at the time was that sprinklers if anything shoud be mandatory in private properties for that's where most fires happen. Probably a sound argument.

depends what system becomes mandatory, there's a difference between fire control and fire suppression, and private companies will of course do the bare minimum to tick boxes, and the systems will only be good enough to prevent a court case rather than loss of life

 

[dholliday]

depends what system becomes mandatory, there's a difference between fire control and fire suppression, and private companies will of course do the bare minimum to tick boxes, and the systems will only be good enough to prevent a court case rather than loss of life

Aye. See also Grenfell, probably the most horrific example of this sort of thinking.

 

[Walken]

Aye. See also Grenfell, probably the most horrific example of this sort of thinking.

with regard retro fitting the systems probably need to be superior to modern builds to have any effect, lack of fire doors and more combustible materials

 

[RAFUH]

Correct. Trump added sprinklers in another one of his towers, but his argument at the time was that sprinklers if anything shoud be mandatory in private properties for that's where most fires happen. Probably a sound argument.

Hardly, the big difference being, it is a hell of a lot easier to get out of a burning two story house than a skyscraper. Fire engine ladders generally only reach about 20 stories or something like that.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Correct. Trump added sprinklers in another one of his towers, but his argument at the time was that sprinklers if anything shoud be mandatory in private properties for that's where most fires happen. Probably a sound argument.

my hero

 

[MrPerfectNot]

Anyone else amused that Kushner's building number is 666?

This is a big thing - this building is an albatross that was going to potentially sink or seriously damage the Kusher financial / real estate holdings.

 

[Huyton Layne]

Worst shoplifter ever

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

This is a big thing - this building is an albatross that was going to potentially sink or seriously damage the Kusher financial / real estate holdings.

Give him a break, he’s right on the cusp of solving Middle East peace.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Worst shoplifter ever

All those big macs he eats...

 

[Huyton Layne]

All those big macs he eats...

Was thinking it might be a Cuato

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Was thinking it might be a Cuato

Someone needs to photoshop Putin's head on that.

 

[SteveSC]

Correct. Trump added sprinklers in another one of his towers, but his argument at the time was that sprinklers if anything shoud be mandatory in private properties for that's where most fires happen. Probably a sound argument.

At first he was opposed to them being installed at all.

He and other high rise owners pushed to have the grandfathered building part scrapped. It was a few months later he changed his mind and admitted they might have to install them not because they were a must but because

“People feel safer with sprinklers,” Trump said in 1999, according to The Times.

He then went on to say what you mentioned about private residences not being included etc...

He probably doesn't even care about the private residences either that was just to backup why his towers shouldn't have them.

Also this tower doesn't have them. His other building in New York was the one later fitted. The world tower.