Donald Trump for President Thread

[peteblue]

Snook?

Sounds fishy to me......

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Sounds fishy to me......

Boris thinks so too

 

[N.S.N.O.]

I'm gonna tell my mate tonight that I snook into Anfield and pissed all over the trophy cabinet. I know there's no proof of it (because it didn't happen) but I hope the authorities come down on me like a sack of bricks because I definitely admitted to a horrific criminal offence.

Any good defence lawyer will easily convince a jury you were merely washing the dust off their league title trophies...

 

[SerenityNigh]

err

I, for instance, can be pretty self-serving, but I'm not really concerned with you or your opinion of me. Trump is very interested that you're impressed with him, as well as whether he's being directly benefitted.

 

[dholliday]

The topic was Russia shooting down airliners, which they did over Ukraine with their own troops/weapons from their border, then blamed Ukraine and confiscated the wreckage

Sauce?

And what's your point anyway? I've already said any killings of innocents is abhorrent and also shown that Russia are killing more directly than USA.

My point is that with no US meddling Russia would be able to sort things out much quicker. How is the Ukraine conflict doing now? It's much calmer, no? My friend, who lives in Kiew, seems quite relaxed, she was even relaxed during the height of the conflict, something that can't really be said by someone living in Aleppo.

The US-supported Rebel forces are today being accused of war crimes, intentionally bombing civilians for no good reason (not that there's ever a good reason).

I'm not saying his bragging constitute a criminal offence, I'm saying by his own words he engages in sexual predatory behaviour which contradicts completely NSNO's assertion.

You said he "confessed" to "sexual predatory behaviour". I'm saying he vaguely bragged about being able to grope women because he's famous.

NSNO said he "wouldn't call Trump a sexual predator" until proof is found he is such.

It's a semantic argument more than anything, as such Trump's bragging doesn't "contradict completely NSNO's assertion".


More here:

People who commit sex crimes, such as rape or child sexual abuse, are commonly referred to as sexual predators, particularly in tabloid media or as a power phrase by politicians.

The term "sexual predator" is often considered distinct from "sex offender". For example, many U.S. states make legal distinctions between these categories, defining a "sexual offender" as a person who has committed a sexual offense. The term "sexual predator" is often used to refer to a person who habitually seeks out sexual situations that are deemed exploitative. However, in some states in the U.S., the term "sexual predator" is applied to anyone who has been convicted of certain crimes, regardless of whether or not there is a history of similar behavior. In the state of Illinois, for instance, a person convicted of any sex crime against a minor is designated a sexual predator, no matter the nature of the crime (violent versus statutory, or perpetrated against a young child versus a teenager), and regardless of past behavior. This has led to criticism that the term is being misused, or overused, and thus has lost its original meaning and effectiveness.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Sauce?

Red/ketchup

You said he "confessed" to "sexual predatory behaviour". I'm saying he vaguely bragged about being able to grope women because he's famous.

It's a semantic argument more than anything, as such Trump's bragging doesn't "contradict completely NSNO's assertion".

Indeed, it's a semantic argument. The semantics are sometimes called "consent." Funny how a few darn words so frequently get in the way of grabbing a woman* in the [Poor language removed].

*Allegedly, although she might also have been 10**. Ask anyone, they'll tell you.

**10, not a 10, she was only a 7.

 

[N.S.N.O.]

Wikileaks saying they're getting ready to start 'Phase 3' of their Election campaign.....be interesting to see what they've been saving for the final week...

 

[dholliday]

Wikileaks saying they're getting ready to start 'Phase 3' of their Election campaign.....be interesting to see what they've been saving for the final week...

to be honest the email 'revelations' so far have seemed quite abstract, there's nothing specifically-damning to dissuade most Hillary voters, whereas with Trump the accusations and leaks that he's at the very least an unpleasant cad are a little more specific and easier for the general populace to understand.

 

[neil999]

to be honest the email 'revelations' so far have seemed quite abstract, there's nothing specifically-damning to dissuade most Hillary voters, whereas with Trump the accusations and leaks that he's at the very least an unpleasant cad are a little more specific and easier for the general populace to understand.

thats my thinking, you have to already hate her to use the emails as a reason to hate her more

 

[tsubaki]

Wikileaks saying they're getting ready to start 'Phase 3' of their Election campaign.....be interesting to see what they've been saving for the final week...

Well, the first one out of the door is confirmation that Donna Brazile leaked debate (one of the Democratic Primary ones) questions to HRC. Given that Brazile went on to be the acting head of the DNC (after Wasserman-Schulz was forced to resign because of her own anti-Sanders antics), the argument that the Democratic Primary was rigged against Sanders seems even stronger now - and it was pretty strong before.

 

[Prevenger17]

I wouldn't go calling Trump a sexual predator. Nobody has proven anything with regards to the accusations thrown his way, and said accusations - just weeks before the election - should be considered untrustworthy at best. I'm sure those women were paid handsomely to sit in front of the camera and reveal all. Do not believe the "too scared to tell" from all of the women, that's absolute bull if you ask me.

Yes, it was proven he was boasting about things, but haven't we all boasted about things that didn't happen or perhaps embellished things that did happen? My guess is he, over the years, has had plenty of women attracted to him for his money, and he took advantage of it as many of us would - legally though.

Clinton, on the other hand, was proven to have broken the law very severely. She only avoided jail because of who she is and what connections she has and has paid off.

He's definitely a sex pest like. He still has my vote though

 

[SerenityNigh]

Boris thinks so too

Every time I see a picture of Boris Johnson, I think Jeff Daniels. And I laugh.

Then I remember our election. And I cry.

 

[SerenityNigh]

The way they have handled this is even worse than the way they handled the fainting episode. It is as if, by turning up the heat on Comey (and by extension anyone involved in this investigation) they want to absolutely guarantee that the very worst of those emails leak during the next week.

Even when they aren't calling for his head, they are demanding more information about what led him to come out with this statement; like Comey going live on every news network to give them that information over what led him to come out with the statement is going to end well for HRC.

In many ways this election has demonstrated that the feared political machines of yesteryear are no more - she has had every advantage it is possible to have - government support, overwhelming media support, almost all of the funding, her opponent recorded going on about how he likes to grab minge etc - and yet its what, a one point lead in some polls and its narrowing?

This has been the greatest success of the Trump campaign--to cast Clinton as "the criminal" and not take any negative spin on Trumps' roughly 1,500 legal defenses over the past 30 years. No doubt Clinton deserves shame, if not some penalty, for her actions, but even if it's clear that she's liable, it's not clear that (1) she acted unlike others in her position, and (2) that her level of disregard for the law exceeds that of Trump.

*A quick google search suggests that Condi Rice did not use personal email for her job as SOS, Colin Powell definitely did, although the extent to which may not be known, John Kerry only claims to use it to respond to people that this is not the correct email, and Madeline Albright probably had no clue what email was during her tenure.

 

[tsubaki]

This has been the greatest success of the Trump campaign--to cast Clinton as "the criminal" and not take any negative spin on Trumps' roughly 1,500 legal defenses over the past 30 years. No doubt Clinton deserves shame, if not some penalty, for her actions, but even if it's clear that she's liable, it's not clear that (1) she acted unlike others in her position, and (2) that her level of disregard for the law exceeds that of Trump.

*A quick google search suggests that Condi Rice did not use personal email for her job as SOS, Colin Powell definitely did, although the extent to which may not be known, John Kerry only claims to use it to respond to people that this is not the correct email, and Madeline Albright probably had no clue what email was during her tenure.

It has, but at least half the reason why it has been such a success is that the Clinton campaign have such a massive blind spot over it; they seem to specialize in coming out with ever-more absurd reasons why she did it - that she didn't want to carry two Blackberries, that she couldn't use email and is a complete technical illiterate, that everyone else does it, that just because something is deemed top secret might mean that it isn't top secret, that its all the Russians fault etc.

That they haven't managed to come up with a decent answer to the questions asked, even after this has been going on for at least a year, is a bit mad. It is also a bit special of them that they get blindsided each and every time when their own emails get leaked; don't they read them?

 

[TX Bill]

@TX Bill how are you voting Bill? What do you think of Trump?

I think he leaves a LOT to be desired and I'm putting that nicely.

That said, HRC is pure corruption and we can't be having that in the WH.

Roll on Wikileaks.