Donald Trump for President Thread

[MartyMcFly]

Funny that Donald was ruled to have to pay $325,000 by a judge. Per usual he used his large wallet to settle out of court.

And you don't think that leaders of other countries could needle him into losing his cool?

He is not fit to be president....it's quite simple.

Neither are fit to be president.

btw - He may of been responsible without knowing. That case was to do with loss of earnings for the union workers.

 

[LinekersLegs]

She plans to import a lot of Muslims in.

But that's not really my point. My point was that eventually with open borders the indigenous culture (not race) gets overpowered.

e.g. If you import 100m Mexicans into Japan would it still be Japan? Of course not. It would be Mexico with a few Japanese people wondering what happened to their country.

Now that's an extreme example however America is based on individual liberty and freedom. Most people especially those from non-European countries have no concept of this. When they move to America they vote the same way as they did or had been ruled in their original country.

In other words people who believe in the "American Way" are simply going to be outvoted until there's simply no such thing. No one fighting to protect the constitution until eventually it's not worth the paper it is printed on.

The scale of immigration once Hillary takes over will be so huge that the demographics will never give non-socialists another chance.

America has always been a nation of immigrants and, whilst each wave has had an impact on Amercian culture, I personally believe that most have embraced the constitution and its values and been a net positive to US society. I expect any future immigrants to work out much the same irrespective of their original country of origin.

 

[dholliday]

He is not fit to be president....it's quite simple.

was George W Bush?

 

[MartyMcFly]

Welcoming who in? And in what way paying for their upkeep? I don't think US has a Hartz IV equivalent.

I think I have got muddled up. I was referring to Germany.

Although once all those undocumented workers get amnesty that's 11m new democratic voters who will vote for socialist policies.

 

[dholliday]

I think I have got muddled up. I was referring to Germany.

Although once all those undocumented workers get amnesty that's 11m new democratic voters who will vote for socialist policies.

The problem with this debate is its fixation on ideology, rather than handling actual problems with sound policy. Clinton and Trump have both hinted at good policy which can fix certain things, but the idea of belonging to a tribe defined by their opposition to a possibly-imagined other tribe is still very strong in the general populace.

Makes me wonder if come election day Trump will score better than expected.

 

[MartyMcFly]

America has always been a nation of immigrants and, whilst each wave has had an impact on Amercian culture, I personally believe that most have embraced the constitution and its values and been a net positive to US society. I expect any future immigrants to work out much the same irrespective of their original country of origin.

That's a bit of myth. For the first 100 years or so it was mostly Puritans from Great Britain. Then the Germans came later and the other European nations. Then the Chinese, Japanese, Mexican etc came a bit later in the last century.

Basically for most of it's history it has been a dual racial culture. About 90% Anglo-Saxon and 10% black and blacks from a very specific part of Africa.

There was a policy of integration up until not too long ago and they did embrace US values. Unfortunately multiculturalism has taken over and the idea that multiculturalism is bad has been deemed racist of xenophobic by political correctness so there's less integration and adoption.

The other main reason is simply the financial reason. Poor people want to take as much of the state as possible.

However that's not the American way for good or bad.

 

[ilikecheese]

was George W Bush?

Personally I didn't think so.

 

[RaleighBlue]

That's a bit of myth. For the first 100 years or so it was mostly Puritans from Great Britain. Then the Germans came later and the other European nations. Then the Chinese, Japanese, Mexican etc came a bit later in the last century.

Basically for most of it's history it has been a dual racial culture. About 90% Anglo-Saxon and 10% black and blacks from a very specific part of Africa.

There was a policy of integration up until not too long ago and they did embrace US values. Unfortunately multiculturalism has taken over and the idea that multiculturalism is bad has been deemed racist of xenophobic by political correctness so there's less integration and adoption.

The other main reason is simply the financial reason. Poor people want to take as much of the state as possible.

However that's not the American way for good or bad.

Jesus Christ.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Jesus Christ.

Yes my son?

 

[dholliday]

That's a bit of myth. For the first 100 years or so it was mostly Puritans from Great Britain. Then the Germans came later and the other European nations. Then the Chinese, Japanese, Mexican etc came a bit later in the last century.

Basically for most of it's history it has been a dual racial culture. About 90% Anglo-Saxon and 10% black and blacks from a very specific part of Africa.

There was a policy of integration up until not too long ago and they did embrace US values. Unfortunately multiculturalism has taken over and the idea that multiculturalism is bad has been deemed racist of xenophobic by political correctness so there's less integration and adoption.

The other main reason is simply the financial reason. Poor people want to take as much of the state as possible.

However that's not the American way for good or bad.

Interesting post, tho' there's also an argument that the American way (or dream) is also a myth.

I for one support genuine multiculturalism. I've seen the benefits first-hand during many years in London and Berlin. I don't support the overweighted influx of a culture which values religion over anything else.

 

[ilikecheese]

Jesus Christ.

He's American?

 

[dholliday]

Personally I didn't think so.

well that makes two of us. But he got the maximum two terms out of it and the world is still here.

 

[LinekersLegs]

That's a bit of myth. For the first 100 years or so it was mostly Puritans from Great Britain. Then the Germans came later and the other European nations. Then the Chinese, Japanese, Mexican etc came a bit later in the last century.

Basically for most of it's history it has been a dual racial culture. About 90% Anglo-Saxon and 10% black and blacks from a very specific part of Africa.

There was a policy of integration up until not too long ago and they did embrace US values. Unfortunately multiculturalism has taken over and the idea that multiculturalism is bad has been deemed racist of xenophobic by political correctness so there's less integration and adoption.

The other main reason is simply the financial reason. Poor people want to take as much of the state as possible.

However that's not the American way for good or bad.

I like in a very multicultural part of California with lots of immigrants (both legal and illegal) and by and large it seems be working out pretty well so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[ilikecheese]

well that makes two of us. But he got the maximum two terms out of it and the world is still here.

Can't believe we elected that idiot twice.

That said he is 100 times more fit to be president than Trump.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Interesting post, tho' there's also an argument that the American way (or dream) is also a myth.

I for one support genuine multiculturalism. I've seen the benefits first-hand during many years in London and Berlin. I don't support the overweighted influx of a culture which values religion over anything else.

Of course there's an argument. I knew a relative who said America has the worst and the best of the world. It's a winner takes all, you are responsible for yourself culture.

And it's that winner takes all culture that has made it the number one super power. Without that and the move to socialism America will go through a period of either managed or unmanaged decline.

As for the arguments. I think it's fine people retaining their own culture but I also think a society needs a culture that brings us all together as well. I agree with you regarding Islam but even with Islam I put most of the blame on Wahhabism but this is not the place for that discussion.