Donald Trump for President Thread

[dholliday]

I don't think anyone else on here has, tbf.

here's one:

He is in trouble not because he "chatted about women in a derogatory way" but because he used his status to sexually assault women. His "chat" was an admission to committing a crime.

 

[joey_macmo]

you're twisting yourself in knots here.

i'll ask you again: which crime has Trump committed?

I'm really not you said

"Women allowing themselves to be groped or taken advantage of isn't a crime."

That is patently false. Somebody doesn't have to object before the event for it to be a crime.

 

[dholliday]

I'm really not you said

"Women allowing themselves to be groped or taken advantage of isn't a crime."

That is patently false. Somebody doesn't have to object before the event for it to be a crime.

You are just wrong. I don't know how else to say it. Do you actually not see the bolded word? Is it like a blind spot?

Are you saying women are incapable of giving consent?

 

[joey_macmo]

i agree mate but we all knew that of him anyway.

the media searching the vaults looking for something to blow him up with is classic vindictive agenda.

Paul Ryan would love a go, you notice any time there's an anti-Trump revelation he's on it. Like a hyena.

With its vindictive agenda that's genuinely hilarious.

Forgetting the countless outrageous things he's already said a candidate for any kind of responsibility should not and cannot say things like that & have that kind of attitude

 

[Prevenger17]

I respect Holliday's game here lads, not going to lie

 

[dholliday]

Forgetting the countless outrageous things he's already said a candidate for any kind of responsibility should not and cannot say things like that & have that kind of attitude

in your opinion. So then just exercise your right to vote and go for the other candidate. It's not your place to say what a candidate should and can be able to say.

This control freakery is sinister.

 

[joey_macmo]

You are just wrong. I don't know how else to say it. Do you actually not see the bolded word? Is it like a blind spot?

Are you saying women are incapable of giving consent?

Seriously I'm not, do some research.

Allowing someone to do something is not consent. As as been borne out in countless rape & sexual cases

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

here's one:

Caolam said: ↑
He is in trouble not because he "chatted about women in a derogatory way" but because he used his status to sexually assault women. His "chat" was an admission to committing a crime.

And you don't think maybe some women were/are intimidated by his wealth and fame; maybe they think they'd have no chance in court if they were to complain - seeing as he can afford the top-jolly lawyers and such?

Nobody's complained - yet. Maybe nobody ever will because of the reasons I've mentioned. That doesn't mean to say there's nobody would like to complain.

However, as nobody has complained he gets the benefit of presumed innocence. But we're now aware of his attitude.

 

[dholliday]

I respect Holliday's game here lads, not going to lie

big boys playground and all that

 

[dholliday]

Allowing someone to do something is not consent. As as been borne out in countless rape & sexual cases

wow.

lads, prepare for a visit from plod anytime soon.

 

[joey_macmo]

in your opinion. So then just exercise your right to vote and go for the other candidate. It's not your place to say what a candidate should and can be able to say.

This control freakery is sinister.

But it's you're place to say he can say it?

Yes it's the "control freakery" that's sinister in all this.

 

[dholliday]

And you don't think maybe some women were/are intimidated by his wealth and fame; maybe they think they'd have no chance in court if they were to complain - seeing as he can afford the top-jolly lawyers and such?

Nobody's complained - yet. Maybe nobody ever will because of the reasons I've mentioned. That doesn't mean to say there's nobody would like to complain.

However, as nobody has complained he gets the benefit of presumed innocence. But we're now aware of his attitude.

Why do you assume that? You could also assume he was referring to groupies.

Shall we go after the Rolling Stones and the surviving Beatles for shagging all those willing fans?

 

[dholliday]

But it's you're place to say he can say it?

Yes it's the "control freakery" that's sinister in all this.

It's not just my place, it's in the very fabric of Western Society: I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.


Sinister to want rid of this...

 

[joey_macmo]

wow.

lads, prepare for a visit from plod anytime soon.

Shockingly the "she just lay there and didn't stop me" defence doesn't work to well

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

big boys playground and all that

I get what you're saying, but for trump to make mention it's because of his celebrity status and wealth that makes it permissible (In his mind) to do these sorts of things unhindered and without the legal /moral repercussions suggests he's a morally-devoid megalomaniac, imo.

Would he have the same attitude if he was on his arse, like millions of other Americans?

I doubt it.