Dominic Calvert-Lewin watch

[pfim]

Ultimately it came down to us refusing to engage with a lad that spent 18 months rejecting contract offers until he had a sudden change of heart a month before it expired when we had already planned to move on.

He turned us down MANY times. I don't blame the club for refusing to be dealt with like that. How many times should the club be trying to engage with him when he had repeatedly made clear he didn't want to know???

He turned down a contract in July 2024, he turned another one down before Christmas 2024. That's at least twice he jibbed us off.

We don't know what difference there was between any offer we made that he rejected and what he eventually decided to accept at the end of the window with Leeds.

Apparently he was making 100,000 a week here which is what he took from Leeds. I highly doubt we told him to take a pay cut on that on any of those offers especially when we were the ones DESPERATE to get him to sign.

Who is the club in this instance? No one in their right minds, in his position, would commit to the club under the prior ownership.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Ultimately it came down to us refusing to engage with a lad that spent 18 months rejecting contract offers until he had a sudden change of heart a month before it expired when we had already planned to move on.

He turned us down MANY times. I don't blame the club for refusing to be dealt with like that. How many times should the club be trying to engage with him when he had repeatedly made clear he didn't want to know???

He turned down a contract in July 2024, he turned another one down before Christmas 2024. That's at least twice he jibbed us off.

We don't know what difference there was between any offer we made that he rejected and what he eventually decided to accept at the end of the window with Leeds.

Apparently he was making 100,000 a week here which is what he took from Leeds. I highly doubt we told him to take a pay cut on that on any of those offers especially when we were the ones DESPERATE to get him to sign.

It's a private limited company, owned by billionaires, employing millionaire assets.

So a professional millionaire decided to defer committing to a negligent employer for a spell - until he knew his role and position under a new manager. That new manager came in, Moyes, and we withdrew the contract that was on the table and decided against matching what he was asking for.

It's as simple as that - the player would be an Everton player now if that’s what Everton wanted.

Sure, if Calvert-Lewin had agreed to reduce his salary on what he was already earning he would also be an Everton player - but no professional footballer, at 27 and as a free agent, does that. Indeed, nobody does. Who does the same job for less when they can get more elsewhere? Again, like with Doucoure, who publicly had a pop about it.

It would be like us offering James Garner less than he's on now, he's not going to sign it when he knows he's a free agent next year.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I understand fine that some people think it's reasonable to hand out massive wage increases to strikers who score 16 league goals in four years.

I simply disagree.

Winning headers and playing back to goal and not scoring goals isn't worth 100k a week.

The only reason the "I told you so" crowd is out is because he finally found his scoring touch again, not because of his hold up play.

You do realise Barry is costing us around £180k per week in wages and contract depreciation?
Yes he might come good, yes he might get sold and recoup some of the transfer fee…. But it’s not like he’s currently looking better value than DCL.
Even without his current purple patch DCL held the ball up and brought others into play far better than the current pair of lottery winners.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Better jumper, header, athlete and long term player of football. Also having grown up in the league didn't need to adjust. Sadly Beto seems a bit more Tosun than much else. For such a big lad he doesn't use his size and strength to much advantage. Looks like he has all the tools, sadly doesn't seem to know how to use them. Cal-Lewin seems destined to keep leeds up unfortunately.

 

[Efcjake]

It's a private limited company, owned by billionaires, employing millionaire assets.

So a professional millionaire decided to defer committing to a negligent employer for a spell - until he knew his role and position under a new manager. That new manager came in, Moyes, and we withdrew the contract that was on the table and decided against matching what he was asking for.

It's as simple as that - the player would be an Everton player now if that’s what Everton wanted.

Sure, if Calvert-Lewin had agreed to reduce his salary on what he was already earning he would also be an Everton player - but no professional footballer, at 27 and as a free agent, does that. Indeed, nobody does. Who does the same job for less when they can get more elsewhere? Again, like with Doucoure, who publicly had a pop about it.

It would be like us offering James Garner less than he's on now, he's not going to sign it when he knows he's a free agent next year.

I haven't seen anything that says we offered him a cut in wages to stay, I highly doubt we did.

He turned down multiple contracts. They left an offer on the table for months and he didn't want to know.

I wouldn't be surprised if Moyes didn't like that he wasn't committed to the cause until the last thirty days of his contract. I honestly don't blame him at all for that.

He was non-committal until the last minute and the recruitment team were forced to make alternative plans because of his hesitation.

I've seen it reported he's on 100k a week at Leeds and my understanding is that's at least what he was on here so any offer we made him would have started there.

And again, we are still talking about 100k a week to a fella who went a Beto and Barry-esque 2 goals in 20 odd matches last season when he was fit and playing.

 

[Efcjake]

You do realise Barry is costing us around £180k per week in wages and contract depreciation?
Yes he might come good, yes he might get sold and recoup some of the transfer fee…. But it’s not like he’s currently looking better value than DCL.
Even without his current purple patch DCL held the ball up and brought others into play far better than the current pair of lottery winners.

Nobody has dared argue that he is.

Whats the alternative? Never sign anyone else for striker because they might be bad?

That's on the recruitment team. They got it badly wrong.

Without his purple patch of goals we were fighting relegation. Leeds are just above it now because he's doing his job. They weren't shouting his praises when he wasn't scoring same as us.

 

[Efcjake]

It's a private limited company, owned by billionaires, employing millionaire assets.

So a professional millionaire decided to defer committing to a negligent employer for a spell - until he knew his role and position under a new manager. That new manager came in, Moyes, and we withdrew the contract that was on the table and decided against matching what he was asking for.

It's as simple as that - the player would be an Everton player now if that’s what Everton wanted.

Sure, if Calvert-Lewin had agreed to reduce his salary on what he was already earning he would also be an Everton player - but no professional footballer, at 27 and as a free agent, does that. Indeed, nobody does. Who does the same job for less when they can get more elsewhere? Again, like with Doucoure, who publicly had a pop about it.

It would be like us offering James Garner less than he's on now, he's not going to sign it when he knows he's a free agent next year.

Hahahaha come on.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I haven't seen anything that says we offered him a cut in wages to stay, I highly doubt we did.

We did, and we eventually didn't offer him anything.

We did the exact same to Doucoure. We could have even triggered another year for Doucoure if we wanted, but we wouldn't pay him the wage we were already paying him.

But all this makes no odds - you, and I'd say 80% of fans wanted him gone. The fume would have been significant if we paid him what he's getting at Leeds.

So now, we'll enjoy near £60m spent on Beto and Barry, smug, knowing at least we didn't pay Calvert-Lewin what Leeds did.

Hopefully, we can find a striker who can do better than Calvert-Lewin. I mean, we've not managed it since we first signed him all them years ago, but maybe the next one...

He should be easy to replace.

*Looks at Barry.

 

[catcherintherye]

When? I'd love to see the source.

Before or after he had rejected multiple offers from us?

He didn't reject multiple offers from us. I don't think he wanted to sign under Dyche, as he thought he would score more goals in a team that might make the occasional chance for him. Which has been proven true.

The club decided they didn't want to keep him. That's an enforced error, as the players we have replaced him with are nowhere near as good. It's not rocket science.

 

[Efcjake]

We did, and we eventually didn't offer him anything.

We did the exact same to Doucoure. We could have even triggered another year for Doucoure if we wanted, but we wouldn't pay him the wage we were already paying him.

But all this makes no odds - you, and I'd say 80% of fans wanted him gone. The fume would have been significant if we paid him what he's getting at Leeds.

So now, we'll enjoy near £60m spent on Beto and Barry, smug, knowing at least we didn't pay Calvert-Lewin what Leeds did.

Hopefully, we can find a striker who can do better than Calvert-Lewin. I mean, we've not managed it since we first signed him all them years ago, but maybe the next one...

He should be easy to replace.

*Looks at Barry.

Where had this been reported anywhere?

It does matter.

If one of our 30 million strikers wasn't crap nobody would be pining for him. It's all just the benefits of hindsight.

You can't defend 16 goals in four years and say that deserved rewarding with a wage increase.

 

[catcherintherye]

This is taken from a Sky Sport's social media about six days ago, so his recent goals will follow the same pattern - the ball being where he scored from.

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It's almost as if Carlo was correct with his mantra, although to be objective, Dom did miss some sitters from similar positions for us.

However, I do think it's fair to say that how we played Dom in the latter stages of his career probably didn't play to his strengths.

What does Carlo know about football eh?

 

[Efcjake]

He didn't reject multiple offers from us. I don't think he wanted to sign under Dyche, as he thought he would score more goals in a team that might make the occasional chance for him. Which has been proven true.

The club decided they didn't want to keep him. That's an enforced error, as the players we have replaced him with are nowhere near as good. It's not rocket science.

It's widely published that he rejected at least 2. One in July 2024 and another around Christmas 2024.

 

[Benicetoourboys]

Never known an ex-player get so much attention.

 

[catcherintherye]

It's widely published that he rejected at least 2. One in July 2024 and another around Christmas 2024.

Thats not my understanding.

 

[Efcjake]

He didn't reject multiple offers from us. I don't think he wanted to sign under Dyche, as he thought he would score more goals in a team that might make the occasional chance for him. Which has been proven true.

The club decided they didn't want to keep him. That's an enforced error, as the players we have replaced him with are nowhere near as good. It's not rocket science.

They got tired of dealing with someone who had turned down contracts twice before and didn't want to consider us until he entered the last month and the recruitment team had already planned ahead.

That's on him and his agent for leaving it last minute.