Dominic Calvert-Lewin watch

[Efcjake]

You would hold him directly accountable for our lack of goals. Coincidentally both Barry and Beto have held top spot in the league for underperforming xG this season too

He's gone now - half way through the season and only Wolves, currently the Premier Leagues worst ever team, have scored less than Everton.

His replacement, Barry has scored 1 goal. Maybe replacing Calvert-lewin isn't so easy. Lukaku aside, name a better striker for Everton the past decade?

You can't. And hes just turned 28.

Maybe, just maybe the crux of Evertons problems - as many like you would claim - wasn't Calvert-lewin. He's gone now - we still aren't scoring goals, but he is.

The lesson here is things in football often aren't so black and white.

We set him up, like many others up, to fail.

I hold him accountable for every one-on-one and chance he missed for us over those four years. There were loads.

Barry and Beto don't come into this but they're crap too yes.

All of this is a lot of words for you to avoid acknowledging that his 16 league goals in 4 seasons didn't deserve a wage increase. You can't make a good case for that which doesn't include "well he scored 16 under ancelotti one time so obviously he is a double digit striker".

 

[Efcjake]

I would.

At least this I know is honest.

 

[Toffeepot]

The booing him was really stupid. I understood it came from frustration of witnessing him just appear to plop down on his arse and give up on the match. This was after a very frustrating injury period where just looking at a ball seemed to make his hamstring go. I understood the frustration, the choice to boo him for it was very stupid but it was a miserable time for blues and the club and everyone was collectively fed up with the continuous false dawns we got from him before another injury stole him away.

I genuinely felt he owed us a LOT more than what he gave us those four seasons and if he had any sense of loyalty towards the club for making him the player he is today then he should have extended his contract at similar terms instead of trying to extract as much as he could out of us after having delivered very little on his last contract. He saw things another way and prioritized getting his money in his account rather than staying here. Fair enough.

I am sick to death of this refrain about how we should have rolled out a red carpet and given in to any demand he put in front of us on the back of blind hope he would do better than 16 goals in 4 seasons the next time.

Why are you talking in extremes? Who said anything like red carpet or any demand met?
Letting him go for free while having his weaker understudy and a kid fill the role on reflection looks stupid by the club. No red carpets, and if he didn't budge on a compromise then that's his choice. If the club didn't budge in initial offer then maybe that's the club's fault no?

 

[Lapeno77]

Let's not forget the off the field relationship between the fans and his wife wasn't exactly ideal either.

Everton 'work with police' after Calvert-Lewin's wife receives threats

Everton are working with Merseyside Police and the Premier League to identify the online trolls who sent 'threatening, racist and misogynistic abuse' to the wife of their striker Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Dominic Calvert-Lewin: Everton condemn "threatening, racist, and misogynistic" abuse of striker's wife Sandra

Everton condemn the "threatening, racist, and misogynistic" abuse aimed towards the wife of Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Efcjake]

Why are you talking in extremes? Who said anything like red carpet or any demand met?
Letting him go for free while having his weaker understudy and a kid fill the role on reflection looks stupid by the club. No red carpets, and if he didn't budge on a compromise then that's his choice. If the club didn't budge in initial offer then maybe that's the club's fault no?

@GrandOldTeam is going on here about what a massive mistake we made not giving in to his demands.

 

[lieneverton]

You would hold him directly accountable for our lack of goals. Coincidentally both Barry and Beto have held top spot in the league for underperforming xG this season too

He's gone now - half way through the season and only Wolves, currently the Premier Leagues worst ever team, have scored less than Everton.

His replacement, Barry has scored 1 goal. Maybe replacing Calvert-lewin isn't so easy. Lukaku aside, name a better striker for Everton the past decade?

You can't. And hes just turned 28.

Maybe, just maybe the crux of Evertons problems - as many like you would claim - wasn't Calvert-lewin. He's gone now - we still aren't scoring goals, but he is.

The lesson here is things in football often aren't so black and white.

We set him up, like many others up, to fail.

Partially agree.

He wasn't the cause of our issues, true.

We didn't set up to his strengths, true. But, also - we don't set up to anyone's strengths because for many, many years we've been, and continue to be, one of the worst teams in the league with creating chances from open play.

It does however need to be said, not only the amount of games he missed for us post-Ancelotti, but let's get it right - he missed hatfuls of easy chances for us, to an unacceptable standard.

It is of course classic Everton we now possess 2 players who do this to an even worse degree.

 

[Efcjake]

Let's not forget the off the field relationship between the fans and his wife wasn't exactly ideal either.

Everton 'work with police' after Calvert-Lewin's wife receives threats

Everton are working with Merseyside Police and the Premier League to identify the online trolls who sent 'threatening, racist and misogynistic abuse' to the wife of their striker Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Dominic Calvert-Lewin: Everton condemn "threatening, racist, and misogynistic" abuse of striker's wife Sandra

Everton condemn the "threatening, racist, and misogynistic" abuse aimed towards the wife of Dominic Calvert-Lewin.

www.bbc.co.uk

I wonder if she's written any cryptic posts calling out the Leeds fans for the lovely song they gave her husband

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I hold him accountable for every one-on-one and chance he missed for us over those four years. There were loads.

Barry and Beto don't come into this but they're crap too yes.

All of this is a lot of words for you to avoid acknowledging that his 16 league goals in 4 seasons didn't deserve a wage increase. You can't make a good case for that which doesn't include "well he scored 16 under ancelotti one time so obviously he is a double digit striker".

Barry and Beto dont come into this? Eh? I guarantee I could find posts of you saying Beto was better than Calvert-lewin. Barry also replaced him. So they only come into it when it suits?

Its evident you have an issue with Calvert-lewin. You was gloating about him a few months ago at Leeds - being fair would be to credit the lad now for doing what you didn't think he was capable of.

 

[Grfirestorm]

You would hold him directly accountable for our lack of goals. Coincidentally both Barry and Beto have held top spot in the league for underperforming xG this season too

He's gone now - half way through the season and only Wolves, currently the Premier Leagues worst ever team, have scored less than Everton.

His replacement, Barry has scored 1 goal. Maybe replacing Calvert-lewin isn't so easy. Lukaku aside, name a better striker for Everton the past decade?

You can't. And hes just turned 28.

Maybe, just maybe the crux of Evertons problems - as many like you would claim - wasn't Calvert-lewin. He's gone now - we still aren't scoring goals, but he is.

The lesson here is things in football often aren't so black and white.

We set him up, like many others up, to fail.

Worse we set him up then we hounded him for being injured or somehow not being a miracle worker for scoring 20+ a season despite having no service.

There were loads of people slating Rom on here for not being loyal, being lazy blah blah- he scored 53 goals in 110 games. He wasn’t born in Liverpool, he wasn’t a diehard Everton fan - his job was to score goals and he did it. Yet somehow for quite a few that still wasn’t enough.

We can be our own worst enemy.

 

[Efcjake]

Barry and Beto dont come into this? Eh? I guarantee I could find posts of you saying Beto was better than Calvert-lewin. Barry also replaced him. So they only come into it when it suits?

Its evident you have an issue with Calvert-lewin. You was gloating about him a few months ago at Leeds - being fair would be to credit the lad now for doing what you didn't think he was capable of.

Beto was better than Calvert Lewin last season.

Congratulations to Dom he has equalled Beto's tally from last season.

A better tally than Dom achieved in his four last seasons here.

I am crediting his good season for Leeds. I am also saying it's making it clear how little he cared his last four seasons here.

 

[Efcjake]

You still aren't touching the question I've put to you here.

How much should we have offered a striker with 16 league goals in four years?

What's the most you think a club under PSR issues should offer to that player?

 

[witchdoc187]

He's better than we've got but you just can't rely on him to be fit. Won't be long until he gets injured again. I'm happy for him though

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I hold him accountable for every one-on-one and chance he missed for us over those four years. There were loads.

Barry and Beto don't come into this but they're crap too yes.

All of this is a lot of words for you to avoid acknowledging that his 16 league goals in 4 seasons didn't deserve a wage increase. You can't make a good case for that which doesn't include "well he scored 16 under ancelotti one time so obviously he is a double digit striker".

I think the series of horrific misses and long lean spells eroded trust and support in him.

It was a peculiar dyad between DCL and the FANS in the end. He looked shorn of belief/almost trying too hard and was missing left right and centre. The fans in turn, rightly, turn it into a joke he's more likely to miss than score. He just didnt look like ever getting back to the Carlo/Covid season form.

Its frustrating to see in some respects as he didn't do it for us, but again I just don't think he was ever going to.

The other question is if this is another temporary purple patch, or a sustained upturn. Would guess the former.

 

[pedro789]

I'm glad he's doing well but it was the right decision to leave.

Villa game was a turning point and he needed a change. It happens.

But there's a % of our supporters who seem to enjoy hounding players out of the club.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

You still aren't touching the question I've put to you here.

How much should we have offered a striker with 16 league goals in four years?

What's the most you think a club under PSR issues should offer to that player?

The question is the cost of the alternative.

How much did Beto cost for fee and wage?

And Barry?

There's still a chance the decision will prove the correct one. But our PSR issues didn't come from contracts, it come from letting players leave for buttons/nothing.

An English player who can score 10+ league goals, and will for the 3rd season, who just turned 28 - shouldn't be leaving for nothing.