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[Papa Shango]

Played a master stroke.

He’s managed to dismantle us from one of the best sides in Europe to a club who accept “we’ve had some good times”, despite not winning a trophy for a minimum of 28 years, with relegation looming large.

We’re a joke.

When?

You may as well blame him for selling Alan Ball if that's the case.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

That Arteta free kick was our high water mark in the modern game. Shambles.

 

[Saint Domingo]

The board are a shambles but I don’t k ow why Kenwright takes most of the ballet or the past 5 years. DBB has been the chief exec and Moshiri seems to make all the decisions. They should be the first people in the firing line for criticism. DBB gets away absolutely Scot free with Everton fans even though from what I’ve seen since she’s taken over from Elstone (who was terrible himself) is that she’s either completely incompetent, or a complete non entity.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

It is harsh to lay the blame only at his door. I think the best thing we could do as fans is to get public commitments from him anyone in such positions about targets, that we had to achieve something by some date like a league title. All we have on him are vague statements on the new ground and the various iterations. If we had got him to say I want to win the league title by this date or do this by that date. That would be something we could hold him accountable for. Since he's weaseled out of all of that stuff, he gets away without anyone actually being able to challenge his record of mediocrity.

He has been a failure in his current position undoubtedly, but will be here for a long time to come.

The actual blame rarely sits with one person. However part of being the ‘boss’ is that it’s your fault, even when it isn’t. He’s overseen a dramatic slide in our fortunes. When that slide was mid table obscurity it was tolerated. Losing our top table status is inexcusable. He has to go.

 

[BNJ1878]

The rot had started way before that. Realistically it started in round 1988. Lack of Europe, sold our best players replacing them with players who were not as good and missing the Premier League gravy train.

We were not the only team hit with a Eiropean ban. We simply wallowed in self pity.

The game has changed, we were left behind when the Premier League kicked off and went further down past that.

Which is weird, seeing as we're one of the loudest voices championing the Premier Leagues formation.

Under Kenwright's "reign" we were pretty much the best of the rest for the most part (again nothing to celebrate but hardly awful either)

Can't argue there

whilst the big money clubs continued to dominate the league buying up everything and everybody. We cut our cloth accordingly

Plucky little Everton, "The Peoples Club."

Now we have the dream chaser in charge who thinks that throwing money at everything will fix all our woes, it obviously will not.

So why hasn't one of the board said "Stop that, that's not how to build."

No bollocks, that's why. Virtually unemployable anywhere else.

As always with these cases I never see any alternative suggestions other than impossible dreams with no basis in reality. A ground move we couldn't afford (which is no guarantee of success either)

We had the chance of a ground move 20 years ago, into the heart of the city for relative buttons. We even had a member of our board offer to pay our end. (with conditions of course, but not terrible) Sadly our supreme leader figured it weakens his grip on "his" Everton.

We all want better, of course we do. How we get that though is not as easy as some like to make out evidently.

100%, it's not easy. It's a process that takes incremental steps and a clear strategy (devised by a competent board and approved by the owner.)

We have a chairman with a track record of failing to deliver progress in any measure, and Infact have regressed badly in most of them.

The case for his defence is non-existent.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

As a fanbase we need to get him gone. It obviously won’t set things straight, but things won’t improve whilst he’s stinking the place out. Please Bill, for the good of the club you supposedly love, get to f^(K.

 

[barneygumble]

When?

You may as well blame him for selling Alan Ball if that's the case.

What?

We went from English Champions to Near relegated in 6 years, and aside from one trophy.

He’s been a mainstay in the complete shift in philosophy of the club. We’re now “Little old Everton”.

 

[Papa Shango]

We were not the only team hit with a Eiropean ban. We simply wallowed in self pity.

Which is weird, seeing as we're one of the loudest voices championing the Premier Leagues formation.

True but nothing to do with Kenwright.

Can't argue there

Plucky little Everton, "The Peoples Club."

We did not have the money. Are you saying we should have spent what we did not have? We did that under Johnson and all of a sudden he was selling players under the managers nose. We are also doing that currently and it has led us to not being able to spend anything lately.

So why hasn't one of the board said "Stop that, that's not how to build."

The owner will do what he wants.

No bollocks, that's why. Virtually unemployable anywhere else.

We had the chance of a ground move 20 years ago, into the heart of the city for relative buttons. We even had a member of our board offer to pay our end. (with conditions of course, but not terrible) Sadly our supreme leader figured it weakens his grip on "his" Everton.

Gregg is well dodgy. It was a move that could have been great but also could have crippled us. The last bit is pure conjecture.

100%, it's not easy. It's a process that takes incremental steps and a clear strategy (devised by a competent board and approved by the owner.)

We have a chairman with a track record of failing to deliver progress in any measure, and Infact have regressed badly in most of them.

The case for his defence is non-existent.

No we didn't regress though, we actually improved from battling relegation to constant Euro qualification. This is factual but does not fit the agenda. Still nothing to write home about but it is not regression either.

There is no case or defence being made, just a clearing up of what exactly is going on and has been going on. Some people are targeting the wrong person which in 2022 I find to be utter madness.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

I’m the worst of armchair fans for the most part, but if anyone based in Liverpool is willing to throw their weight behind it, PM me about starting something to really get him moved on. We can definitely achieve it, but it does need a strategy and concerted effort.

 

[zukai12_]

Not even just the lack of trophies, it's the total nothingness

No title fights, two finals (one lost) , no runs past QFs in europe

Spurs don't win much more than we do but at least they get close enough to be exciting

 

[Papa Shango]

What?

We went from English Champions to Near relegated in 6 years, and aside from one trophy.

He’s been a mainstay in the complete shift in philosophy of the club. We’re now “Little old Everton”.

He was a board member, he didn't take over the club until 1999.

I have never once said he was great or anything (or even good) just a bog average chairman who kept us on a fairly even keel and nothing else.

The current incumbent is dangerous.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Not even just the lack of trophies, it's the total nothingness

No title fights, two finals (one lost) , no runs past QFs in europe

Spurs don't win much more than we do but at least they get close enough to be exciting

Spurs have been to a CL final in recent years, we’re fighting for our lives.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

I have it on good authority that @AndyC is William Kenwright’s stage director.

 

[anton66]

We were not the only team hit with a Eiropean ban. We simply wallowed in self pity.

It did stop the momentum we were building. Utd went on the same path as us in the early 90’s, winning the FA cup, Cup winners Cup, then the league but they kicked on and went onto that superb run.

 

[AndyC]

I have it on good authority that @AndyC is William Kenwright’s stage director.

No, just a moderator who will happily warn you endlessly if you continue to break the forum rules.