Derby Ref

[Deleted member 38674]

We are talking about a multi billion pound global industry that has been shown to be corrupt in terms of FIFA, UEFA. Sky have an interest in flogging matches to millions about the globe - and apart from the odd outlier like Spurs or Leicester, it's a damn site easier for them to sell their usual darlings than it is the likes of Norwich or other trifling teams.

Money is THE prime motivator in football now, more than winning a cup or a league. It is no longer a sport. Everybody has a price - whether it's the drug testing individuals or the entire body - and if you think these prices are out of the scope of an industry that can pay hundreds of players many tens of thousands of pounds a week then it seems it is you that needs to get a grip on reality.

As i mentioned earlier, I totally 100% agree that corruption exists within the sport - but only off the pitch. For me, there are just so many variables in a Football game that it would be impossible to fix a result with JUST the cooperation of the referee, it would take a majority of the players and possibly even the coaches too. I don't want to believe that's a possibility.

There is a much higher level of accountability for referees nowadays with VAR, hundreds of camera angles and hours of post-match discussion. I firmly believe that if a referee went into a game, having been instructed to let one team win, we would all know about it nowadays. And there's still no guarantee that, even pursuing that agenda, they'd even be able to get the result they want.

Things like offsides, throw-ins, corners aren't subjective. They are nearly always cut and dry. We don't like the offside rule, that something as insignificant as a toe can be offside (ala Sheffield United vs Spurs), but there's a process to follow with that one. Free kicks, penalties and sendings off are subjective, of course, and if incorrect calls of those were occurring every week, I'd probably agree with you - but I don't believe they are.

Even when I disagree with a decision a ref makes, I can still sort of see the rational behind it, when forced to make a decision in a split second with that much pressure.

 

[degsy]

I think we will win

They're not actually playing that well, heavily overdrawn at the bank of last minute goals.
salah is crocked.

Think of last years performance. It's in this team somewhere. Law of averages says Everton win.

Sue me.

So were, Keane, Zouma, Gueye and Bernard

But on the minus side...so was Schneiderlin.

But on the plus side again...As was Coleman who may yet start, Richarlson was a sub.

But again with the minus...no Gomes to come on for Schneiderlin
Its a Derby, so who knows.

 

[KaiserEFC]

I mean we can’t blame the ref for the best team in the world beating us considering our current form surely?

 

[JordanianEmbassy]

Big Spurs fan is Mike Dean:

 

[mrb85]

If players weren't all cheats and actors then it would be much easier to tell whether refs were biased in their decisions. As it is much of what they decide is pure guesswork.

 

[chrismpw]

As i mentioned earlier, I totally 100% agree that corruption exists within the sport - but only off the pitch. For me, there are just so many variables in a Football game that it would be impossible to fix a result with JUST the cooperation of the referee, it would take a majority of the players and possibly even the coaches too. I don't want to believe that's a possibility.

There is a much higher level of accountability for referees nowadays with VAR, hundreds of camera angles and hours of post-match discussion. I firmly believe that if a referee went into a game, having been instructed to let one team win, we would all know about it nowadays. And there's still no guarantee that, even pursuing that agenda, they'd even be able to get the result they want.

Things like offsides, throw-ins, corners aren't subjective. They are nearly always cut and dry. We don't like the offside rule, that something as insignificant as a toe can be offside (ala Sheffield United vs Spurs), but there's a process to follow with that one. Free kicks, penalties and sendings off are subjective, of course, and if incorrect calls of those were occurring every week, I'd probably agree with you - but I don't believe they are.

Even when I disagree with a decision a ref makes, I can still sort of see the rational behind it, when forced to make a decision in a split second with that much pressure.

I don't want to believe that religion exists mate but it does. I also know it's very easy for a bent ref to patiently wait for a hairline decision to go the way of one particular team, knowing there will be a debate, knowing that 3 months later a panel will admit they got it wrong and knowing that there will be zero repercussions from it, while slipping a year's salary in his pocket for an afternoon's work.

And you know what? I'm not on a high horse here, if somebody offered my 70 grand to make a bad decision in a match and put up with ittle more than some grumbling then I'd do it too!

 

[brigadier]

You dont see kopites pretending not to be reds, how embarrassing would that be.

 

[Wayno]

FA chiefs can earn £3,000,000 a year with performance bonuses; related to financial income.

Premier league refs earn £70k a year at the absolute top end and can directly influence that financial income.

The FA’s Xmas party tab would probably quadruple Mike Dean’s net worth if it was paid directly to him.

It’s more ridiculous to think match fixing doesn’t exist.

 

[Bluewolf]

I mean this was taken from a referee convention in 2009, so what does that tell you.

With Mike Dean front row singing along.

 

[sdk]

Meanwhile, conspiratorially minded kopites online are crying that the inclusion of Atkinson is evidence that the fix is in against them, since he didn't allow a Firmino goal a few weeks back.

It's good to know that nobody's happy.

 

[Groucho]

Lads, Joe Anderson could ref it with Klopp gaffer taped to his fridge, it’ll make no difference.

 

[LEONARD]

At least 4-0 to the RS.

First goal, via Mane (totally unmarked) after 3 minutes.

Everton player sent off ( probably Mina)

Milner to score penalty.

Everton to grab a consolation goal in 96 minute= ruled out by VAR.

 

[Cels]

Officials have been testing the VAR system well ahead of the game to make sure there are no mistakes during the Derby:

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[Alanbileysfeathercut]

If I disagree with someone, even if it does involve the RS, I'll say it. We are in a sorry state and they are quite good. There's no dressing it up. I mean in the last 18 months they've played in more Champions League finals than they've lost league games.

What a strange analogy to make.
18 months results?
Seriously mate.