2023/24 Dele

blueblue · September 4, 2023

Unless Dele shows unbelievably good form when fit(which I don't expect to happen) then I think Spurs will be left with a decision to make....
Give Everton the opportunity to play Dele in more games to get some form
OR

Walk away from any chance of getting money for him

Rooney_Tunes · September 4, 2023

We should just close this thread.

I doubt he ever gets back to anything resembling his England form...ever..

dCahill17 · September 4, 2023

buededw1 said:
Or help him & get him back to a level that improves the squad.... i

Investigator hahaha

Lost cause him. Costing big wages.

Deli Ali will never ever come good. He’s a bag head leeching on our limited resources. I don’t expect him to be treated any differently to anyone else in any other employment.

Lots of jobs do random drug testing etc I’d like it if Everton did. Van der meyde would have been fired after a week

ha investigated not unheard of either.

Clarky cat · September 4, 2023

dCahill17 said:
What’s your issue with people from gurnsey?

If you’re from “Gurnsey” my main issue is that they don’t appear to have had enough condoms.

BNJ1878 · September 4, 2023

dCahill17 said:
I’d hire a private investigator to follow him then release an image of him doing hippy crack or whatever other stuff he is up to then fire him for gross misconduct. Do we drugs test our own players?

The above is assuming there is evidence of misconduct of this sort, which I believe there was hippy crack head incident, thus warranting an investigation. This guy is a drain on the club, what the hell were we thinking when signing him.

Get him outttttttt.

Hahahaha.

You really were the pick of the litter!

dCahill17 · September 4, 2023

BNJ1878 said:
Hahahaha.

You really were the pick of the litter!

Do you think we should have kept van der meyde, or fired him?

BNJ1878 · September 4, 2023

dCahill17 said:
Do you think we should have kept van der meyde, or fired him?

I'm not talking about VDM.

Next question, on topic.

You can do it!

Eggs · September 4, 2023

blueblue said:
Unless Dele shows unbelievably good form when fit(which I don't expect to happen) then I think Spurs will be left with a decision to make....
Give Everton the opportunity to play Dele in more games to get some form
OR

Walk away from any chance of getting money for him

…they’ll be thankful we took him on, anything else will be a bonus.

BirkenheadBlue · September 4, 2023

Eggs said:
…they’ll be thankful we took him on, anything else will be a bonus.

Let’s take what you’re saying as fact (whether it is or not).

It doesn’t alter the argument that renegotiating is better for all 3 parties involved.

dCahill17 · September 4, 2023

BNJ1878 said:
I'm not talking about VDM.

Next question, on topic.

You can do it!

Seems like it is on topic Deli Ali and him are a very similar drain on the club. Drenthe as well

BNJ1878 · September 4, 2023

dCahill17 said:
Seems like it is on topic Deli Ali and him are a very similar drain on the club. Drenthe as well

By that reckoning Mina, DCL (Over the past two years) Rodriguez? All a drain on the club.

Should they all have been sacked?

Dele was brought in as he'd clearly fallen off a cliff. Spurs were happy to get rid, that alone should have set off alarm bells but it didn't. We took him on KNOWING he's damaged goods. Has his behaviour worsened since he arrived? No. You can't fire a player because the management made a poor decision.

He's admitted he had an addiction, he voluntarily sought treatment and the club seem happy enough to support him.

VDM and Drenthe have shown nothing apart from the occasional "I wish I'd been a bit more professional" soundbite when interviewed.

It's completely different. But you crack on if it makes you feel better about things, Einstein.

brieverton · September 4, 2023

If we could negotiate a pay as you play deal with both him and Spurs I think that would be a reasonable compromise for all.

dCahill17 · September 4, 2023

BNJ1878 said:
By that reckoning Mina, DCL (Over the past two years) Rodriguez? All a drain on the club.

Should they all have been sacked?

Dele was brought in as he'd clearly fallen off a cliff. Spurs were happy to get rid, that alone should have set off alarm bells but it didn't. We took him on KNOWING he's damaged goods. Has his behaviour worsened since he arrived? No. You can't fire a player because the management made a poor decision.

He's admitted he had an addiction, he voluntarily sought treatment and the club seem happy enough to support him.

VDM and Drenthe have shown nothing apart from the occasional "I wish I'd been a bit more professional" soundbite when interviewed.

It's completely different. But you crack on if it makes you feel better about things, Einstein.

Difference between Calvert Lewin and James is they were injured, not out pictured with hippy crack.

Plenty of jobs if you’re a bag head you get fired why not footballers? And you see it happen to people who have nothing to fall back on, but of course they’re easy targets.

You want to give him time 100k a week, help him out and see if he comes good whilst he is making a mug out of us. That’s not for me.

Sometimes to help people you need tough love. The best thing for Deli Ali is if he buggers off. Keeping him here hoping he comes good is doing no one any favours, except his bank balance.

BNJ1878 · September 4, 2023

dCahill17 said:
Difference between Calvert Lewin and James is they were injured, not out pictured with hippy crack.

Has he been photographed with date verified photographs since signing for Everton?

dCahill17 said:
Plenty of jobs if you’re a bag head you get fired why not footballers? And you see it happen to people who have nothing to fall back on, but of course they’re easy targets.

Thats life mate. It sucks but your not changing it by whining on GOT.

dCahill17 said:
You want to give him time 100k a week, help him out and see if he comes good whilst he is making a mug out of us. That’s not for me.

No, but we've already agreed to it so we may aswel try to get the best we can out of it.

dCahill17 said:
Sometimes to help people you need tough love. The best thing for Deli Ali is if he buggers off. Keeping him here hoping he comes good is doing no one any favours, except his bank balance.

Once again, (because it's clear you're not grasping this bit) we agreed to his contract. If he's not done anything drastic since that was agreed we don't have any grounds for termination.

What he earns as a footballer as opposed to say.... a bus conductor, is completely irrelevant.

witchdoc187 · September 4, 2023

dCahill17 said:
Lost cause him. Costing big wages.

Deli Ali will never ever come good. He’s a bag head leeching on our limited resources. I don’t expect him to be treated any differently to anyone else in any other employment.

Lots of jobs do random drug testing etc I’d like it if Everton did. Van der meyde would have been fired after a week ha investigated not unheard of either.

Wheres the evidence he's a bag head? First I've heard of this