Are you saying Rooney wasn't world class????
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Are you saying Rooney wasn't world class????
Sake, I thought somebody would use Tom Davies 155 appearances for us.
But you have indeed got me.
tsubaki
Player Valuation: £90m
In the great scheme of things, when viewed from after his career is over I don't think he was. He absolutely had the potential to be, but would have had to go elsewhere to prove it.
Spot on! In my opinion he was the most talented British player in my time, and that is quite some time.
Sorry but that's just garbo. All opinions but if Rooney wasn't world class then you must only think about 3 modern players have been.
Manchester United
- Premier League: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09, 2010–11, 2012–13[429]
- FA Cup: 2015–16[430]
- EFL Cup: 2005–06,[84] 2009–10,[431] 2016–17[432]
- FA Community Shield: 2007,[433] 2010,[434] 2011,[435] 2016[436]
- UEFA Champions League: 2007–08[437]
- UEFA Europa League: 2016–17[438]
- FIFA Club World Cup: 2008[439]
Records
- Manchester United all-time top scorer: 253 goals[469]
- England national team 2nd all-time top scorer: 53 goals[470]
- England national team 2nd-most goals in competitive matches: 37 goals (in competitive matches)[471]
- 2nd-Most Premier League goals scored for one club: 183 goals for Manchester United[472]
- Most Premier League away goals scored: 94 goals[472]
- Most Premier League seasons reaching double figures in goals: 12[472]
- Youngest player to start a competitive match for England: 17 years 160 days[473]
- Youngest player to score a goal for the England national team: 17 years 317 days (v FYR Macedonia, 6 September 2003)[474]
- Manchester United all-time top scorer in UEFA club/European competitions: 39 goals[475]
- Manchester United all-time top scorer in FIFA Club World Cup/International Competitions: 3 goals[476]
- Most goals scored by an English player in the UEFA Champions League: 34 goals[477]
- Most goals scored by an English player in the FIFA Club World Cup: 3 goals[476]
- 3rd-highest Premier League all-time top scorer: 208 goals[478]
- 3rd-highest Premier League all-time assist-provider: 103 assists[478]
- Only footballer to have scored at least 200 Premier league goals and provided at least 100 Premier League assists[479]
- 2nd-Most capped England international: 120 caps[480]
- Most capped outfielder for the England national football team: 120 caps[480]
- All-time top goalscorer in Manchester derby: 11 goals[481]
Sheedy's right knee.
Player Valuation: £20m
Regardless of what people may think. He is one of the greats players of our Generation. There are plenty of Mancs in work who go the games and have said his contribution was bigger than Ronaldos when they played together and Fergie played him all across the park because he could pretty much trust him to play anywhere when he was at his peak.
…brilliant, he plays 7 games we pay £10m and then has a relapse of his personal issues. I sincerely hope that doesn’t happen but it’s a possibility, especially for a footballer who has played little football for 2 years and couldn’t complete a loan for that very reason.
That isn’t ‘win win’, this isn’t La La Land.
Or, he plays 7 games, we pay 10m, then he plays another 20 games, we pay 20m, he then signs a 5 year contract, becomes Captain and becomes the first Everton player to lift the CL.
Win, win.
Checkmate.
It’s a possibility for an athlete to get snapped in a bad tackle any game any day and I think it’s harsh to say because someone had these issues it’ll likely happen again.
Dele has made a big step to his personal recovery from his personal issues and I back Dyche who is great at man management to make sure we don’t get into a situation where we’re wasting more money without the reward.
Ultimately, I can see both sides but there’s no right or wrong answer here without knowing what level of fitness, ability and mental strength he can get to again.
joebocop
Player Valuation: £8m
Crazy talk. The only thing I will say is that his England career was a bit disappointing (I think even still he was England's record scorer before Kane). However when it counted he didn't really do enough for England.
His best tournament for England was when he was still with us in euro 2004. I wonder if he hadn't got injured in that Portugal game whether we would have gone on to win the whole thing. He was on fire at that time.
Dele Alli is a huge talent but in recent seasons for different reasons his form has fallen off a cliff.
However, form is temporary, class is permanent.
I don't understand how people on here who know absolutely nothing about the player personally can be so certain that he can regain his form or never will do.
Have you met him and spoken to him, listened to him about where he thinks his career is, where he wants his career to go and he he thinks this should happen ?
Have you seen him rehapping or training ?
Is he still a poor trainer as has been reported or is he making the extra effort to get back to his best ?
None of us know this I think but the management team who work with him every day will have formed an opinion and maybe we should wait to see what that is.
However, form is temporary, class is permanent.
I don't understand how people on here who know absolutely nothing about the player personally can be so certain that he can regain his form or never will do.
Have you met him and spoken to him, listened to him about where he thinks his career is, where he wants his career to go and he he thinks this should happen ?
Have you seen him rehapping or training ?
Is he still a poor trainer as has been reported or is he making the extra effort to get back to his best ?
None of us know this I think but the management team who work with him every day will have formed an opinion and maybe we should wait to see what that is.
…of course a player can get injured in a tackle. Any player can get injured in a tackle, including Deli Alli. It‘s a daft argument because this is an additional and very real risk.
There is a right answer here and it’s for the club to act in its best interest.
Do you dream of pigs flying over the moon ? lol
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