….you can see who’s not cooking Christmas dinner today.
….you can see who’s not cooking Christmas dinner today.
Ferguson1878
Player Valuation: £35m
Off your head you mate
st.domingo
Player Valuation: £10m
In honour of the page number - and by way of Christmas Day diversion…
Me: What similarities are there between David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche?
GPT answers…
At first glance, David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche inhabit completely different worlds—but there are some surprisingly neat parallels if you squint a little (and lean into analogy rather than biography):
1. Relentless pragmatists
Both are archetypes of engineering over romance.
In both cases: form follows function.
2. Long-term thinkers, not trend-chasers
Neither was especially interested in what was fashionable.
Both preferred durable fundamentals over short-lived innovations.
3. Reputation lagged behind results
A shared theme of being underrated during their prime.
They aged well—reputational compound interest.
4. Builders, not performers
Neither man is the face of glamour.
Others came later and added polish—but the core architecture was theirs.
5. Enduring legacy through robustness
What they leave behind lasts.
Where the analogy breaks
TL;DR
If football managers were cars:
Me: What similarities are there between David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche?
GPT answers…
At first glance, David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche inhabit completely different worlds—but there are some surprisingly neat parallels if you squint a little (and lean into analogy rather than biography):
1. Relentless pragmatists
Both are archetypes of engineering over romance.
- Moyes: structure, fitness, discipline, repeatable patterns. Not about flair-first football, but about systems that survive bad weather and injuries.
- Porsche: obsessed with mechanical efficiency and function. His cars were solutions to engineering problems, not stylistic statements.
In both cases: form follows function.2. Long-term thinkers, not trend-chasers
Neither was especially interested in what was fashionable.
- Moyes never chased tiki-taka or gegenpressing because Twitter demanded it.
- Porsche ignored luxury ornamentation and focused on drivetrain, weight, and reliability.
Both preferred durable fundamentals over short-lived innovations.
3. Reputation lagged behind results
A shared theme of being underrated during their prime.
- Moyes often framed as “uninspiring” despite sustained overperformance with limited resources.
- Porsche’s early genius wasn’t universally celebrated at the time; his influence became clearer in hindsight through the dominance of Porsche engineering philosophy.
They aged well—reputational compound interest.
4. Builders, not performers
Neither man is the face of glamour.
- Moyes builds squads, cultures, habits.
- Porsche built platforms, layouts, mechanical DNA.
Others came later and added polish—but the core architecture was theirs.
5. Enduring legacy through robustness
What they leave behind lasts.
- Moyes teams are rarely chaotic or fragile.
- Porsche’s engineering principles still underpin modern performance cars.
Where the analogy breaks
- Porsche was a radical technical innovator in his domain; Moyes is more evolutionary than revolutionary.
- Porsche’s legacy is inseparable from darker historical contexts; Moyes’ legacy is… Everton, West Ham, and mild pundit slander.
TL;DR
If football managers were cars:
- Moyes is rear-engined, over-engineered, unfashionable, and weirdly hard to kill.
- Ferdinand Porsche would probably approve.
In honour of the page number - and by way of Christmas Day diversion…
Me: What similarities are there between David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche?
GPT answers…
At first glance, David Moyes and Ferdinand Porsche inhabit completely different worlds—but there are some surprisingly neat parallels if you squint a little (and lean into analogy rather than biography):
1. Relentless pragmatists
Both are archetypes of engineering over romance.
- Moyes: structure, fitness, discipline, repeatable patterns. Not about flair-first football, but about systems that survive bad weather and injuries.
- Porsche: obsessed with mechanical efficiency and function. His cars were solutions to engineering problems, not stylistic statements.
2. Long-term thinkers, not trend-chasers
Neither was especially interested in what was fashionable.
- Moyes never chased tiki-taka or gegenpressing because Twitter demanded it.
- Porsche ignored luxury ornamentation and focused on drivetrain, weight, and reliability.
Both preferred durable fundamentals over short-lived innovations.
3. Reputation lagged behind results
A shared theme of being underrated during their prime.
- Moyes often framed as “uninspiring” despite sustained overperformance with limited resources.
- Porsche’s early genius wasn’t universally celebrated at the time; his influence became clearer in hindsight through the dominance of Porsche engineering philosophy.
They aged well—reputational compound interest.
4. Builders, not performers
Neither man is the face of glamour.
- Moyes builds squads, cultures, habits.
- Porsche built platforms, layouts, mechanical DNA.
Others came later and added polish—but the core architecture was theirs.
5. Enduring legacy through robustness
What they leave behind lasts.
Longevity through conservatism done correctly.
- Moyes teams are rarely chaotic or fragile.
- Porsche’s engineering principles still underpin modern performance cars.
Where the analogy breaks
- Porsche was a radical technical innovator in his domain; Moyes is more evolutionary than revolutionary.
- Porsche’s legacy is inseparable from darker historical contexts; Moyes’ legacy is… Everton, West Ham, and mild pundit slander.
TL;DR
If football managers were cars:
- Moyes is rear-engined, over-engineered, unfashionable, and weirdly hard to kill.
- Ferdinand Porsche would probably approve.
Just what i was thinking
Imagine getting up Chrimbo morning to moan about David Moyes OBE.
That's actually hilarious.
That's actually hilarious.
Ferguson1878
Player Valuation: £35m
Think we all need to have a serious look at ourselves being on here today , Iv got 4 kids who haven’t seen me yet cos I’m hiding upstairs
Like Russia vs Ukraine. Knife to a gunfight. Etc
Ferguson1878
Player Valuation: £35m
You love it really, few baby Guinness later you’ll be tagging people for a bit of Crimbo aggro
Well it's this or listening to fat uncle Percy banging on about Boats, Lie-bour, Farage and the EU.
Moyes is a club legend and THE best manager to take us forward.
Come at me.
@davek @jceverton
Merry Christmas!
'Tis the Season to be jolly...
get back down those stairs!
Osamabindiesel
Player Valuation: £70m
The question isn't whether or not he will survive the year. It's whether or not we should extend him. It's a no for me. He would have to do a lot to change my mind but the ball is in his court. I don't see him impressing enough. I question his choices. Let's see how he handles the difficult period without some main pieces.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
Funnily enough, the next five games are a great opportunity for him. Burnley, Forest, Wolves, Brentford and Sunlun is a run of matches that could, in a best-case scenario, provide a contract extension. Every single one of those games could plausibly be won. By the same token, they also represent peril. A poor return in the four league games and a cup exit could make the rest of his tenure a time-serving exercise.
Interesting times.
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