Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
Yeah I do at times also
GoldenToffee
Player Valuation: £70m
Still a great chance of European football next year if he is able to bring in a striker and full back early doors in January.
No striker brought in and, unless he decides to go without a striker and plays Ndiaye or something up top, he should fall on his sword for refusing to try an alternative formation in the face of persistent failures by the current strikers we do have.
No striker brought in and, unless he decides to go without a striker and plays Ndiaye or something up top, he should fall on his sword for refusing to try an alternative formation in the face of persistent failures by the current strikers we do have.
MisterJ
Player Valuation: £35m
I agree, being top half and not looking down is the very least to be expected.
But as we are currently tenth, isn't there an argument to say he is doing exactly that. Maybe the plan is to get the side into a comfortable position in the first half of the season, which allows for the introduction of younger players in the second half, when there is no fear or danger of dropping into trouble.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
Surely a cheaper option would be to bring in a more dedicated attacking/striker coach, someone who can work one to one with Beto and Barry.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yes. My point about top half was about where we are at the season's end rather than now.
Bluepablo
Player Valuation: £1.5m
There is a disconnect in the strategy. Buying players to develop isn’t something Moyes does with the exception of defenders. In particular he has a very poor record with youth & with forwards so the spending on Dibling & Barry makes no sense.
Rehabilitating players is one of his strengths so KDH & Grealish are perfect for him.
The frustration arises because we want to see the players we have bought but it is clear Moyes has no confidence in them and they then lose confidence (eg Alcarez) and it then becomes self fulfilling so they don’t play well.
Rehabilitating players is one of his strengths so KDH & Grealish are perfect for him.
The frustration arises because we want to see the players we have bought but it is clear Moyes has no confidence in them and they then lose confidence (eg Alcarez) and it then becomes self fulfilling so they don’t play well.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
I have a degree in economics. Football is small beer as an industry. But I digress...
Royle's record was superb in the big games. Yes, the gap has grown since - but the gap between his Oldham side and the likes of Man United didn't stop him bloodying big club noses. There's no replicating attitude and the current manager has always been a damage limitation merchant when push comes to shove. That's why he was PERFECT for the damage limitation chairman who appointed him in 2002. His best-ever move.
Good manager, Moyes. Competent. But if we ever actually want to win a cup or compete at the top end again, he's the wrong horse for that course. Economics has nothing to do with losing key cup ties to Reading, Wigan, and Shrewsbury. Summer will be interesting. I await your juvenile middle finger with anticipation.
Roger Milla
Player Valuation: £20m
He outperformed an FA cup winning manager?Revisionism. And Moyes outperformed all of them.
Put the Magnificent 7th dvd away mate
Oh come on matey. By all means point out Moyes' shortfalls but improving Beto ? Hardly realistic, he's not that guy technically. Barry ? Maybe but he looks anything but a natural finisher to me.
Who?
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £30m
Clueless. Pep lost a cup final to Wigan. Fergie lost a cup final to us. It happens.
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £30m
Yep.
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £30m
Did you go to Trump university? You actually ignore the fact that Moyes has won a European trophy and finished 4th. A much bigger achievement than the FA cup. The narrative is just nonsense and just one bought into by he feeble minded.
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
Both of them have scored goals previously and Beto has scored goals in this league, they don't just stop without reason. As much as I don't rate Alcaraz him and Beto did seem to have a bit of a thing at one point for a few games last season. The smart manager tries everything, the poor one sticks with the same thing just hoping for the best.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
The loss of N'Diaye to Afcon and KDH to injury at a critical period is very unfortunate and Moyes can do nothing about that.
We also still have Branthwaite out.
The bigger issue is the summer recruitment. Out of all of the signings made, only KDH and Grealish have made an appreciable difference and whatever mitigation there is, that doesn't seem good enough to me.
You can argue that in comparable terms we didn't spend a huge amount on Barry and that this position takes big money to adequately fill. Still though we might have expected a little more there.
Dibling is the conundrum. Maybe this time next year he will be having the sort of impact we brought him here for but alternatively we could be looking to send him out on loan. However good or otherwise he proves to be, I don't think we had the luxury of this type of signing given the position we started from, and considering it was a significant fee by our standards.
Recruitment needs to be better and Moyes' seemingly was the driving force in the summer. It just seems to me that the Dibling signing came after too many others had turned us down. There is collective responsibility but its ultimately Moyes that is answerable.
We also still have Branthwaite out.
The bigger issue is the summer recruitment. Out of all of the signings made, only KDH and Grealish have made an appreciable difference and whatever mitigation there is, that doesn't seem good enough to me.
You can argue that in comparable terms we didn't spend a huge amount on Barry and that this position takes big money to adequately fill. Still though we might have expected a little more there.
Dibling is the conundrum. Maybe this time next year he will be having the sort of impact we brought him here for but alternatively we could be looking to send him out on loan. However good or otherwise he proves to be, I don't think we had the luxury of this type of signing given the position we started from, and considering it was a significant fee by our standards.
Recruitment needs to be better and Moyes' seemingly was the driving force in the summer. It just seems to me that the Dibling signing came after too many others had turned us down. There is collective responsibility but its ultimately Moyes that is answerable.
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