2025/26 David Moyes

[bicycleheader]

let’s sack moyes aye

Good to have you on board Matty

Altho calm down a bit, we should keep him in place until the summer

 

[kiss the crest]

Just for once , just one day, please please have a go away at a cartel clubs. Id accept a hiding if we actually tried to win and got done by better players, it's the tepid approach and toothless showings that get me

which is exactly what we got v Liverpool this season apart from the last 20 minutes where he had a go and they panicked

 

[Swartzy]

If you could come on here as a flat out Neutral on the whole Moyes/Progression scenario, you could probably pick little pieces of all debates and get the perfect solution.

 

[DualityNSNO]

I'm not saying you mate (apologies if you thought I was) but there are plenty that have its proper Moyes brigade central on here at times. I do think our record at the big clubs should be better tbh, but yeah I do agree people get way too hung up about winning at Anfield which I agree isn't a massive thing in the grand scheme of things, they are in a different stratosphere to us these days as a team.

I'd agree, if they weren't so piss poor.

Everyone except us will beat them this year or at least try to - we won't, and that's down to Moyes. Not as some mad anti-Moyes statement, he's what we need right now, but his record against the top 4 was atrocious everywhere, United included.

 

[bicycleheader]

If you could come on here as a flat out Neutral on the whole Moyes/Progression scenario, you could probably pick little pieces of all debates and get the perfect solution.

The perfect solution would be if somehow miraculously the people in the senior roles who make the decisions actually make a well informed choice of a new manager that gives us moderate stability with glimpses of a plan and hope of better things to come.

Then we can all just get behind them, and get past this tiresomely predictable merry-go-round of a debate about a manager many people got sick of years ago

Im just gonna hold out hope this happens in the summer

 

[hallamblue]

The perfect solution would be if somehow miraculously the people in the senior roles who make the decisions actually make a well informed choice of a new manager that gives us moderate stability with glimpses of a plan and hope of better things to come.

Then we can all just get behind them, and get past this tiresomely predictable merry-go-round of a debate about a manager many people got sick of years ago

Im just gonna hold out hope this happens in the summer

The ownership are worrying me a bit though. We don't seem to have a strategy, they've bought an analytics firm but do they know what to do with it? If they get rid of Moyes after the last game, install someone they've been talking to for 6 months who has helped identify targets along with the recruitment team and sign 3 players in the week after the transfer window opens who they've tracked all season and already arranged deals for, then I'll be happier.

 

[evertony]

I say that because Moyes is generally good at home and at anyone away, bar Arsenal, Chelsea, City, RS, Utd and even Spurs.

We need a period of stability, a manager who can get us fighting for the top 8, so we can build and improve the playing squad. We try and change now and get it wrong, we could be back to where we were. The players we have aren't that good at the moment. So despite the age old problem Moyes has, I'd rather 3 years of this than a relegation battle.

Staying still effectively means getting left further behind because there’s 10-12 progressive Clubs in this league who will keep spending, keep building, keep strengthening and leaving us for dust.

 

[jceverton]

If that's the plan then we have the wrong guy in charge now though. There is zero point in the youth development thing unless you have a head coach in charge (not a manager type) It needs to be someone whos focus is the training ground and the development of players and team tactics. Also a good compliment of backroom staff who can offer specialized support in different areas, we currently have a small backroom team and the likes of Irvine are even older than Moyes!

Spot on. I know that Armstrong’s agent was keen to get him on loan because of Moyes, and will have no hesitation moving him on in the summer if Moyes isn’t going to get him in the first team.

 

[jceverton]

The ownership are worrying me a bit though. We don't seem to have a strategy, they've bought an analytics firm but do they know what to do with it? If they get rid of Moyes after the last game, install someone they've been talking to for 6 months who has helped identify targets along with the recruitment team and sign 3 players in the week after the transfer window opens who they've tracked all season and already arranged deals for, then I'll be happier.

The ownership should be worrying you, they’ve cocked up putting Moyes in charge of transfers and scraping the DOF role.

 

[jceverton]

Half the teams in the league are currently challenging for top 4.

You’re possibly missing the point I feel.

 

[jceverton]

Won our last game, not played yet this weekend, our neighbours got snotted, and people still talking about sacking Moyes.

Genuinely don't think half of you ever want Everton to just be stable. Addicted to the chaos.

Are people talking about sacking him now? Most of the posts I’ve read are talking about getting rid in the summer.

 

[jceverton]

or your slowly moving

So far we’ve gone backwards from last season under Moyes and spunked £100 million for the pleasure of doing it.

 

[jceverton]

You're right but that's kind of my point. You either get a manager who players will come to us just because of them, to skip over the building phase, (just needs to be done properly this time) or you have to take the pain of starting that development cycle.

We know from Moyes that a load of players didn't want to come this summer, due to the noise (to quote a former manager) around the club. Not that we had the same problems with the ownership, but if you've had constant negative press and years fighting relegation, it sticks.

If we finish 9th this season, everyone can see we have a pattern of reversing that trend, get European football or improve again the following season to get it, then we have far greater pull in the market.

You need a steady hand on the tiller to ensure that development cycle bears fruit. If it fails and suddenly you have to change tact then you're back to square one. That's what we've been fighting for the last 5 odd years and why I'm amazed people think sacking the manager is the right course.

In my opinion we’re only going to move forward when we’ve got a top class DOF in who’s clear on the way he wants to play and is actually allowed to appoint the managers. Binning that system off because Moyes demanded it and putting him in charge seems like a fundamentally backwards move to me. So from my view the first thing we need to do is part company with Moyes in the summer and start properly.

 

[Swartzy]

Spot on. I know that Armstrong’s agent was keen to get him on loan because of Moyes, and will have no hesitation moving him on in the summer if Moyes isn’t going to get him in the first team.

Armstrong is a young lad, with a grounded mentality. He is also contracted to us and is getting the right approach with that loan.

He isn't a little kid that will get sucked under the wings of an agent.

We hold the cards with him, he's looking a happy lad in what's going on with his game.

If he comes back with the progress he's making and gets overlooked cos of age, their will only be one person walking out that door.

 

[jceverton]

Armstrong is a young lad, with a grounded mentality. He is also contracted to us and is getting the right approach with that loan.

He isn't a little kid that will get sucked under the wings of an agent.

We hold the cards with him, he's looking a happy lad in what's going on with his game.

If he comes back with the progress he's making and gets overlooked cos of age, their will only be one person walking out that door.

I hope you’re right mate but if Moyes is still here and does his normal tricks with young players he’ll be off.