2025/26 David Moyes

[JobForTheMoyes]

Was alcarez supposed to perform and affect the game with 5 minutes to go like the game with spurs?!

He certainly had the opportunity to against Sunderland and he squandered it badly.

 

[jceverton]

Your looking at it in a simplistic way so it’s hard to engage. If you think Moyes said “go get me Dibbling” or “go get me Rohl” then I can’t get onboard with that. Does he get final say on what players come in well that might be so. But I bet his picks were different players and these ones were the clubs. But both of us don’t truly know. That’s the truth.

I'm putting things in a simplistic way, c'mon, you've just said "I don’t believe Dibbling, Aznou and Barry were Moyes signings." That's as simplistic a statement as you can get! If you'd have said Dibbling, Aznou and Barry weren't his first choices, then you'd have maybe had a point saying I was being simplistic in my statements. Although given the long pursuit of Dibbling I'm not sure he wasn't his first choice and I think we can reasonably say he was high up the list.

However you're correct in that we don't know what Moyes first choices were. We can extrapolate a bit based on his comments. He wanted some players who weren't going to come because they wanted Champions League football. That's a failure to identify realistic targets. So even if they weren't his first choices, we can confidently say that Moyes signed off on Dibbling, Anzhou and Rohl. He's made choices to sign those players instead of others, even if they weren't his first choice. No one forced him to sign them. So it's on him to take responsibility and for fans, like yourself, to think clearly about the situation. He's got form for signing players and not playing them or failing to integrate them into his sides.

So the guy whose job title is head of recruitment, has no say in recruitment. Excellent stuff.

You’re being deliberately obtuse. Hammond’s role isn’t to identify players to recruit, its to handle the actual transfer negotiations, contracts, and deal-making. Smith and Cox role is clearly to identify players to sign, Moyes makes the final decision on which ones to sign.

 

[jceverton]

One thing I did like is he downplayed Dibling's fee because, yes, it wasn't much these days. I just hope the Friedkin's attitude behind the scenes made him comfortable enough to feel ok acknowledging this fact.

From what I was told TFG held a meeting with Moyes after Sunderland game asking him what was going on and why he isn’t playing players he chose to sign in the summer. They’re not impressed with what’s going on so far this season.

 

[UltraVires]

From what I was told TFG held a meeting with Moyes after Sunderland game asking him what was going on and why he isn’t playing players he chose to sign in the summer. They’re not impressed with what’s going on so far this season.

It’s easy to see why.

However, I cannot see what changing manager mid season again is going to do to help unless our league position massively drops off.

I think we need to get to the end of the season and re-evaluate based on the entire season. If we still aren’t happy, then look at who is available and who will come.

Iraola, Glasner seem to be the prestige options but they would be hard to convince to come.

Beyond that I am not sure who we should go for but we need to find someone who gets the project (whatever it is) and is prepared to put trust in the players bought as part of that project (Barry, Dibling, Aznou) instead of casting them aside and shattering their confidence like Moyes has so far.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It’s easy to see why.

However, I cannot see what changing manager mid season again is going to do to help unless our league position massively drops off.

I think we need to get to the end of the season and re-evaluate based on the entire season. If we still aren’t happy, then look at who is available and who will come.

Iraola, Glasner seem to be the prestige options but they would be hard to convince to come.

Beyond that I am not sure who we should go for but we need to find someone who gets the project (whatever it is) and is prepared to put trust in the players bought as part of that project (Barry, Dibling, Aznou) instead of casting them aside and shattering their confidence like Moyes has so far.

Ancelotti could be free again after the WC?

 

[irishtony1878]

Anyone think Moyes will change the habits of a lifetime tomorrow and put a false 9 upfront?
I'd love N'Diaye to get a go at it.

 

[Curtis]

Ancelotti could be free again after the WC?

There's no debate on whether Carlo is a legendary manager, he clearly is, the issue is if he's suited for a club trying to reestablish themselves as just a competitive club that can get into the top 8. Which I feel an upcoming manager in the mold of a iraola or even marco rose from RB Leipzig would be a better fit for a project.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

It’s easy to see why.

However, I cannot see what changing manager mid season again is going to do to help unless our league position massively drops off.

I think we need to get to the end of the season and re-evaluate based on the entire season. If we still aren’t happy, then look at who is available and who will come.

Iraola, Glasner seem to be the prestige options but they would be hard to convince to come.

Beyond that I am not sure who we should go for but we need to find someone who gets the project (whatever it is) and is prepared to put trust in the players bought as part of that project (Barry, Dibling, Aznou) instead of casting them aside and shattering their confidence like Moyes has so far.

Why would Glasner come here, seriously? His career trajectory suggests he will be looking for better opportunities.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Anyone think Moyes will change the habits of a lifetime tomorrow and put a false 9 upfront?
I'd love N'Diaye to get a go at it.

Yeah, it’s not like Moyes has ever played with a false nine like Tim Cahill, Fellaini, or even converted wide players like Arnautovic or Antonio.

But to play upfront you do need to be very strong, while Ndiaye and Alcaraz simply seem too slight for the position.

 

[jceverton]

It’s easy to see why.

However, I cannot see what changing manager mid season again is going to do to help unless our league position massively drops off.

I think we need to get to the end of the season and re-evaluate based on the entire season. If we still aren’t happy, then look at who is available and who will come.

Iraola, Glasner seem to be the prestige options but they would be hard to convince to come.

Beyond that I am not sure who we should go for but we need to find someone who gets the project (whatever it is) and is prepared to put trust in the players bought as part of that project (Barry, Dibling, Aznou) instead of casting them aside and shattering their confidence like Moyes has so far.

I agree. Glasner would be my target. Ironically the system Moyes has put in place for transfers would suit Glasner down to the ground.
You would think other managers worth considering would be Iraola, Sebastian Hoeneß would be worth a look, same with Frank Haise.

 

[jceverton]

Why would Glasner come here, seriously? His career trajectory suggests he will be looking for better opportunities.

We’d more than double his salary and he could have big say in recruitment due to our set up.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

We’d more than double his salary and he could have big say in recruitment due to our set up.

I don’t think he’d be attracted by that. He’s used to being a head coach.

 

[Swartzy]

Per minute, Alcaraz lags the average Premier League attacking midfielder in goals, assists, key passes, progressive carries and pass completion. He is way behind in tackles, interceptions and duels won.

These are simply the facts and no doubt are the reasons he finds himself stuck on the bench.

Stats have no impact on this summary.

 

[jceverton]

I don’t think he’d be attracted by that. He’s used to being a head coach.

Actually, Glasner has always been very hands on with recruitment, even if his title is “head coach.” At Frankfurt, he helped bring in key players like Kolo Muani and Lindström to fit his system. At Palace we had the Guehi incident. At LASK & Wolfsburg , he worked closely with directors to identify undervalued players for his high-intensity, structured style. He builds systems that demand the right players, so influencing transfers would be a big attraction to him I think.

 

[matty1878]

It’s easy to see why.

However, I cannot see what changing manager mid season again is going to do to help unless our league position massively drops off.

I think we need to get to the end of the season and re-evaluate based on the entire season. If we still aren’t happy, then look at who is available and who will come.

Iraola, Glasner seem to be the prestige options but they would be hard to convince to come.

Beyond that I am not sure who we should go for but we need to find someone who gets the project (whatever it is) and is prepared to put trust in the players bought as part of that project (Barry, Dibling, Aznou) instead of casting them aside and shattering their confidence like Moyes has so far.

we’ve went down the prestige options and they didn’t work