2025/26 David Moyes

[Lob]

We can make as many excuses as we like but last night was unforgivable for me. That starting 11 against premier league opposition when we haven't won a trophy since 1995 is arrogant and disrespectful. Lost a lot of points with me last night.

Treat every game as a must win or do one.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Will be interesting to see if TFG actually give him time or do what they have done at Roma and move him on after a few bad results.

You've said this a lot, but think you're putting too much stock into De Rossi - sounds like it just went toxic/off field issues there. Perhaps Koeman like. They went for fan choice, and he wasn't suited. I think they've learned to ignore fans, and settled on an older head who'll play the averages. Moyes won't go anywhere this season.

 

[efcste97]

I'm fine with sticking with Moyes for another year or two, but can we stop pretending he's suddenly a different manager from the one we had over a decade ago? The same issues I had with him back then are still showing up now.

 

[ToffeeScot]

We can make as many excuses as we like but last night was unforgivable for me. That starting 11 against premier league opposition when we haven't won a trophy since 1995 is arrogant and disrespectful. Lost a lot of points with me last night.

Treat every game as a must win or do one.

Was the Wolves lineup arrogant and disrespectful too? They made more changes than we did.

 

[davek]

Putting Moyes in charge of this new look Everton Football Club was like handing him the turntable of an Ibiza dance party - and he plays Perry Como and Bing Crosby all night.

 

[Moomin]

You've said this a lot, but think you're putting too much stock into De Rossi - sounds like it just went toxic/off field issues there. Perhaps Koeman like. They went for fan choice, and he wasn't suited. I think they've learned to ignore fans, and settled on an older head who'll play the averages. Moyes won't go anywhere this season.

They sacked De Rossi's replacement after 11 games and considered going back in for him.

 

[Lanolin]

Was the Wolves lineup arrogant and disrespectful too? They made more changes than we did.

I genuinely don't think they wanted to go through at first, i think they were writing the game off until it became evident they could win it and then they obviously wanted to do that. Regardless though, what people are complaining about is misplaced arrogance rather than just arrogance itself. If we'd made 7 changes and still won then our arrogance wouldn't have been misplaced, so nobody would care. Make the changes and lose and it's a different thing. It's a results business, that's always going to be the way you're judged.

 

[davek]

Was the Wolves lineup arrogant and disrespectful too? They made more changes than we did.

Well you would do if you keep getting pumped every week wouldn't you?

Their changes were logical to make; ours were insane.

 

[davek]

They sacked De Rossi's replacement after 11 games and considered going back in for him.

I fear a two-tier attitude to Roma/Everton exists though.

Roma they have publicly associated themselves with; Everton they treat at arms length pretending they dont know us...for whatever reason.

The ambitions for both probably diverge in all likelihood. I wouldn't rule out us spluttering along in a safe 10th-12th position for the next two seasons before they look around for a replacement.

It's probably the hot favourite as a scenario, unfortunately.

What was the song we sang a few years ago?....STUCK WITH MOYES, STUCK WITH MOYES, STUCK WITH MOYES....!

 

[Lob]

Was the Wolves lineup arrogant and disrespectful too? They made more changes than we did.

Couldn't care less about Wolves mate, only Everton. Our squad is nowhere near decent or big enough to have the luxury of doing that which is why we got battered in that first half. Starting a game against any PL team with the likes of Pickford, Grealish, Dewsbury, Ndiaye warming the bench is incompetent and arrogant. Get the job done first and then let them have a rest. Bringing them on after the damage is done is making the job twice as hard as it should have been. Confidence and momentum is all shot and you are playing catchup which tends to fail more than it succeeds.

It was really poor from Moyes.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Liverpool only scraped by against Saints at the pit, I noticed..

Difference is - even when not taking this competition seriously - they still have the quality to beat sides that they should be beating even when rotating fringe players in. Moyes doesnt have that luxury when it comes to Prem opposition and he is mistaken if he think he does.

Still baffled why he just didnt start with a strong XI last night...

 

[Harryflashman]

I genuinely don't think they wanted to go through at first, i think they were writing the game off until it became evident they could win it and then they obviously wanted to do that. Regardless though, what people are complaining about is misplaced arrogance rather than just arrogance itself. If we'd made 7 changes and still won then our arrogance wouldn't have been misplaced, so nobody would care. Make the changes and lose and it's a different thing. It's a results business, that's always going to be the way you're judged.

I agree I don’t think they , or by the attendance their fans , approached the game with anything other than intention to get it out of the way and concentrate on staying up . They met an Everton team who performed the way we did and suddenly had a real opportunity.

 

[brieverton]

We are just not at the stage to expect to win a tie like last night with that amount of changes.

To get results we still need our best players, playing at their best more often than not, and particularly when it's away. We beat them recently and should have been looking to do that again with a strong side.

We can't saunter up to a place like Wolves and expect to turn them over with anything less.

Why not do your best to keep a bit of momentum going and at least the prospect of winning something alive. A deep cup run could compensate for an underwhelming league position, and he's lost one of his cards now.

 

[ToffeeTim]

We have only 2 chances to win something every year. To name that side and put in that performance is a complete joke.

Clearly he is not the right person to be in charge and clearly he doesn't understand what these games mean to the supporters.

To then say he didn't regret the team selection is just arrogance too. If you can't admit a mistake then how can you ever improve.

What he did yesterday is inexcusable and there's no coming back from it. If you don't take games seriously then you're clearly not the right manager for Everton

 

[GrandOldTeam]

They sacked De Rossi's replacement after 11 games and considered going back in for him.

I think they had a headloss/spin over De Rossi.

As I understand it, they hired Mourinho. Big fanfare. He was there for nearly 3 years.

When he left, how do you replace a name like that? They allowed fan sentiment to go for De Rossi. Be like us going from Ancelotti to Duncan Ferguson. They twigged he wasn't right as it went chaos behind the scenes, so sacked him like 4 games into the season was it? Went Juric - who also wasn't right/they were still in that tailspin, before they settled on Ranieri that November to steady before, before Gasperini.

But it was a tailspin and all that was based on one bad appointment in De Rossi, and like I say, I think they think there's a lesson from that and when they went Ranieri in November, I said on here they'd go Moyes here...